Unanswered questions (General)

by David Turell , Wednesday, May 08, 2019, 20:05 (2024 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: No problem. I simply find it inconsistent that you go on and on about God’s purposefulness, and then refuse to consider different concepts of purpose to fit in with the history of life as we know it. Why is it so important for you to tell us that his purpose for producing life was to produce humans if you don’t care about his purpose for producing humans? [David’s bold]

DAVID: I don't understand the last comment of yours that I have in bold. I've never stated what you imply I've stated. Humans were His primary purpose, but He may not have a purposeful relationship with single individuals, per Adler.

dhw: It was not a comment but a question. Why is it so important for you to tell us that your God’s one and only purpose was to produce H. sapiens? What is your point? I would have thought that anyone who believed this would regard it as a mere stepping-stone to the question of WHY his God produced him – but apparently that is forbidden territory!

DAVID: Nothing is forbidden! I think all of us would agree that if God is in change He wanted to produce humans, because we are the current endpoint of evolution. As far as 'me' being produced that is a matter of odds with sperm and egg, not God. As to the past discussions about God's reasons for producing us, we have covered all possibilities we can think of, which proves nothing.

dhw: Nothing can be proved, and that is why we offer hypotheses and then test their likelihood. If we don’t do so, there will be nothing for us to discuss! And still you refuse to tell us why it is so important for you to tell us that God’s only purpose was to produce H. sapiens. What is your point?

I don't have a point. I have a conclusion, based on the realization that evolution appears driven, not at random. Aquatic mammals show that point. Humans are a totally unexpected result with their consciousness- bearing giant brains. Design is required. Only a reasoning brain can design the livcing complexities we observe. Therefore there is a God who runs the show. All logical for me to accept.