Unanswered questions (General)

by dhw, Saturday, August 24, 2019, 10:00 (396 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: God is timeless and doesn't care how long He takes to achieve a goal.

dhw: So God says to himself: “I have only one goal, which is to design H. sapiens, but I am timeless and so instead of pursuing my one goal, I shall postpone it and therefore I have to design lots of other life forms, lifestyles and natural wonders so that all these life forms can eat or be eaten by one another until I decide to do the only thing I actually want to do. And David Turell alone shall realize that although even he has no idea why I should think this way, which defies all human logic, that is because I am not human.”
[…] please don’t say it’s a distortion unless you are prepared to say which parts of it do not correspond to your theory.

DAVID: Your characterization of God is totally not my vision of God. He defies your human logic which you apply to Him. My God wishes to evolve humans over time. Why can't He have that choice? Because you want to view Him as impatient and therefore illogical as a humanized God. As you quote God, the one accurate statement is that He is not human.

So now you are saying that H. sapiens was not his only goal, he is not timeless, he did not decide to take 3.5 billion years to start the process of evolving H. sapiens, he did not have to design other life forms so that they could eat or be eaten by one another until he had “covered” the time he had decided to take to fulfil his one and only goal. Fine. That means goodbye to a theory that is totally illogical by your human standards and mine.

No, I do not view him as impatient or illogical. I am proposing that H. sapiens was NOT his one and only goal, and he did NOT have to design other life forms to eat or be eaten in order to cover the time he had decided to take etc.. And I am proposing that since, by your own admission, this combined purpose and method which you have imposed on him defies logic, maybe your personal reading of his mind (which I have summarized above) is wrong.

DAVID: My ID folks accept evolution as designed by God. They never discuss whether God is humanized or not.

We are not talking about humanizing God. We are talking about your theory that your God’s only purpose was to design H. sapiens, and he decided to wait for 3.X billion years and therefore had to individually design every life form, lifestyle and natural wonder in order to cover the time before he designed the only thing he wanted to design.

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