Unanswered questions (General)

by dhw, Saturday, June 08, 2019, 09:36 (1993 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw: You continue to ignore the fact that it is the COMBINATION of your hypotheses which is illogical.

DAVID: We continue to debate the same point. What is illogical about believing God managed evolution and designed all the steps? The book 'Nature's IQ' says exactly that and gave us weaverbirds to discuss.

Nothing illogical at all. But yet again you focus on ONE of your hypotheses and ignore the other. What is illogical is that you have him specially designing every life form, lifestyle and natural wonder extant and extinct, although according to you the only thing he wants to specially design and eventually does specially design is H. sapiens. Once more: it is the COMBINATION of your hypotheses that is illogical.

dhw: How do you know that he specially designed the salmon’s migratory reproduction system (i.e. he did not create a mechanism whereby the salmon could design the system itself), and what grounds have you for assuming that the purpose of this was that the salmon could eat or be eaten until your God specially designed H. sapiens, which was his only purpose in starting life?

DAVID: Again your IM. I accept it only with limits.

You have not answered my questions.

dhw: Since you have no idea why he chose to specially design us by specially designing all the other special-but-less-special-than-us life forms, I don’t know how you can tell us you find it logical.

DAVID: It is logical to assume God chose to evolve us from bacteria.

For anyone who believes in God and in evolution, it is logical to assume that he chose to evolve ALL forms of life from bacteria. It is not logical to assume that he chose to specially design every single form of life for the sole purpose of getting them to eat or not eat one another until he specially designed the only thing he wanted to design: us.

DAVID: That is my belief.

The fact that it is your belief does not make it logical.

dhw: Does Adler really support your view that your God specially designed every special life form, and that he did so in order to make them eat or not one another until he specially designed us?

DAVID: Adler is not discussing why God chose to evolve us, except to point out our specialness. He never delve into God's methods, only his obvious purpose.

dhw: I am not querying our specialness, but clearly that is the only “view” of yours which Adler supports.

DAVID: Our specialness is something you reduce in your arguments.

I agree with you and Adler that we are extraordinarily and uniquely and astonishingly and especially special. Adler does not support your belief that your God specially designed every other special organism, and did so in order that they would all eat or not eat one another until he specially designed the only thing he wanted to specially design: the extraordinarily special us. Do you in fact know of anyone who supports this belief?