Unanswered questions (General)

by David Turell , Monday, September 02, 2019, 17:55 (1907 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: Why “no”? You keep stating that God’s logic is different from ours and you don’t understand it. That is a statement concerning God’s logic and is supposed to justify your fixed belief or faith in your guess that he lacks human attributes and works in ways that defy human logic. And so you think your guess entitles you dismiss any other guess.

DAVID: You can guess all you want. The result is the same. It is a guess.

dhw: You keep agreeing that my alternative guesses are all logical and fit in with the history of life as we know it. This is in direct contrast to your own response to your own guesses:
dhw: Evolution according to you is the history of your God’s special design of all life forms, lifestyles and natural wonders for the sole purpose of producing H. sapiens. I quote you: “Haven’t you realized by now, I have no idea why God chose to evolve humans over time?” Exactly the same as today’s “I do not pretend to…understand God’s logic.”

We do not agree about the interpretations of God's reasoning. See next:

DAVID: What God does is never illogical, but His choice, for which we never can know His reasoning.

dhw: […] You keep trying to invent a choice which you agree is illogical by human standards, and your only justification for rejecting other interpretations of his choice is that they are logical but you know your God doesn’t think logically by human standards. How about the possibility that he does, and your interpretation of his choice is wrong?

DAVID: His choice is not wrong!

dhw: I did not say his choice was wrong! It is your interpretation of his choice which may be wrong.

Your reasoning constantly humanizes Him, because you are using human reasoning for Him.

DAVID: As the creator of all that is, He chose to evolve humans. and I have not agreed His thoughts are "illogical by human standards". All I have ever said is I don't know why He made the choice to evolve humans...

dhw: You have also said that God’s logic is not the same as human logic – and that is supposed to justify your fixed belief in something you don’t understand.

I try to understand why history happened as it did, assuming God is the Creator.

DAVID: ...but I have noted He uses evolution at all times with the universe, the Earth and with life, as evidence He prefers to evolve His creations.

dhw: As usual, you hide behind the word “evolve” and gloss over the rest of your theory. “Evolve” for you means specially design! That is the nub of the whole argument. According to you, he chose to specially design every stage of evolution, every life form, lifestyle and natural wonder, and you have no idea why he did so when the only form you say he wanted to design was H. sapiens.

Again a total distortion. As God is the Creator, I have chosen to believe He chose to evolve everything, because that is what history tells us. 'Evolve' does not hide anything, as both of us believe in the process of evolution.