Unanswered questions: a review of Adler's thoughts (General)

by David Turell , Saturday, August 24, 2019, 18:03 (1916 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: Your intelligent cell theory still has God totally in charge and using cells as his agents. Just an intellectual sidestep.

dhw: My theory allows for the possibility that your God created the cells. “Totally in charge” is highly misleading, because my theory is that he would have deliberately created the mechanism to do its own designing, in contrast to your insistence that he either preprogrammed or dabbled every single innovation (not to mention lifestyle and natural wonder). Intellectual sidestep from what?

DAVID: Since God designed the mechanism for the cells to perform, I still look at Him as in charge. (dhw's bold)

dhw: Excellent. If God exists, then I agree that he is in charge, but instead of preprogramming and/or dabbling every single life form, lifestyle and natural wonder, as you would have it, he chose to design autonomous, intelligent cells to do their own designing without any further input from him (other than perhaps an occasional dabble). Of course it’s still an unproven theory, like your own, but I’m delighted that we have reached this agreement.

DAVID: You seem to have forgotten in my view of God's inventive mechanism He provides guidelines for developmental changes.

dhw: Your now bolded comment referred to my theory, not yours. We have already established over and over again that your theory of the inventive mechanism is the exact opposite of mine, since “guidelines” can only involve either preprogramming or dabbling, whereas mine involves total autonomy.

I know that and I don't believe they have the brain-planning to do it. That is the ID point.