Unanswered questions (General)

by David Turell , Friday, August 23, 2019, 14:33 (1917 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: Exactly Adler's point. You describe a humanized God who shouldn't be impatient and jump right into providing humans on Earth, as below:

dhw: I keep on acknowledging that our consciousness is special, but that does not mean your God designed 3.X billion years’ worth of life forms etc. for the sole purpose of designing us!

DAVID: Why not if God doesn't care about the time involved? God is timeless and doesn't care how long He takes to achieve a goal.

dhw: So God says to himself: “I have only one goal, which is to design H. sapiens, but I am timeless and so instead of pursuing my one goal, I shall postpone it and therefore I have to design lots of other life forms, lifestyles and natural wonders so that all these life forms can eat or be eaten by one another until I decide to do the only thing I actually want to do. And David Turell alone shall realize that although even he has no idea why I should think this way, which defies all human logic, that is because I am not human.”

Your characterization of God is totally not my vision of God. He defies your human logic which you apply to Him. My God wishes to evolve humans over time. Why can't He have that choice? Because you want to view Him as impatient and therefore illogical as a humanized God. As you quote God, the one accurate statement is that He is not human.

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dhw: I fear you won’t make many converts to your theory if your only justification for its illogicality is that your God isn’t human.

DAVID: I don't need converts. Lots of ID folks think as I do. Design requires a planning mind, God's.

dhw: Yes, they believe in divine design as you do. But how many of them believe in your theory, which I have summarized above. And please don’t say it’s a distortion unless you are prepared to say which parts of it do not correspond to your theory – apart from the last sentence! And please tell us how you know that your God – even though of course he is not human – does not think in logical terms that are comprehensible to humans (as in all the alternative theistic explanations of evolution that I have offered you).

My ID folks accept evolution as designed by God. They never discuss whether God is humanized or not.