Unanswered questions (General)

by dhw, Friday, August 23, 2019, 07:39 (1918 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: Why can't God chose his methodology for producing humans? It is a reasonable suggestion and the choice fits the history.

dhw: Of course God chose his methodology, and the result is the evolution of billions of life forms, lifestyles and natural wonders extant and extinct, with humans the last so far. You yourself cannot see any logic behind the above monologue, and so you fall back on the absurd assumption that anything logical would be human (see below), and you know your God is not human and therefore we shouldn’t look for logic.

DAVID: Exactly Adler's point. You describe a humanized God who shouldn't be impatient and jump right into providing humans on Earth, as below:

dhw: I keep on acknowledging that our consciousness is special, but that does not mean your God designed 3.X billion years’ worth of life forms etc. for the sole purpose of designing us!

DAVID: Why not if God doesn't care about the time involved? God is timeless and doesn't care how long He takes to achieve a goal.

So God says to himself: “I have only one goal, which is to design H. sapiens, but I am timeless and so instead of pursuing my one goal, I shall postpone it and therefore I have to design lots of other life forms, lifestyles and natural wonders so that all these life forms can eat or be eaten by one another until I decide to do the only thing I actually want to do. And David Turell alone shall realize that although even he has no idea why I should think this way, which defies all human logic, that is because I am not human.”

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dhw: I fear you won’t make many converts to your theory if your only justification for its illogicality is that your God isn’t human.

DAVID: I don't need converts. Lots of ID folks think as I do. Design requires a planning mind, God's.

Yes, they believe in divine design as you do. But how many of them believe in your theory, which I have summarized above. And please don’t say it’s a distortion unless you are prepared to say which parts of it do not correspond to your theory – apart from the last sentence! And please tell us how you know that your God – even though of course he is not human – does not think in logical terms that are comprehensible to humans (as in all the alternative theistic explanations of evolution that I have offered you).