Unanswered questions (General)

by David Turell , Thursday, September 05, 2019, 18:36 (1904 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: History tells us He decided to evolve!

dhw: For those of us who believe in evolution, history tells us that evolution took place. If you believe in God, then of course God decided to use evolution to produce the bush of life. It does not tell us that he decided to spend 3.X billion years not designing the only thing he wanted to design, and therefore he had to cover the time by designing millions of non-human life forms. Why do you keep ignoring the part of your theory that makes no sense?

DAVID: Same old incorrect points. Of course He had to cover the time involved or life would have been starved out of existence.

dhw: But if he was always in control and had only one purpose, why did he decide not to fulfil his purpose and therefore had to design millions of other life forms etc.? Here is your answer:
DAVID: It is not that: "you admit you cannot explain", I cannot read God's mind or understand His choices […]

dhw: You can’t explain his choices because you don’t understand them!

I don't try to understand. I simply accept that God does what He wants to do, and He chose to evolve, as you agree to above. You then turn around and with your humanized God you wonder why HE wanted to wait.

DAVID: I fully understand my explanations. It is possible God's logic is like ours, but what you refuse to recognize is we cannot know that for sure, so we must look at His works and interpret what He might have thought.

dhw: I fully recognize that we cannot know for sure, which is why I keep pointing out the illogicality of your own theory, and in turn look at his works and offer different logical interpretations as alternatives to the one which you now claim to fully understand – though at other times you admit you have no idea why your God would choose such a method of fulfilling such a purpose.

DAVID: Again your humanized God seems illogical. Not to me

dhw: You can’t understand his choices but they don’t seem illogical to you.

No, I accept what He decides to do. My God is not humanized, very unlike yours.

DAVID: Evolve hides nothing since you know I believe God designs everything! The entire bush of life is required, as God certainly knew, as humans without the bush couldn't survive.

dhw: Humans did not even exist, let alone survive for 3.X billion years! That is the problem with your theory that H. sapiens was his one and only goal but he “had to” create the bush because he had decided not to fulfil his one and only goal for 3.X billion years! You don't know why he chose this method of fulfilling his purpose, and so God's logic must be different from ours!

DAVID: Same old chorus. My view of God is He chose to evolve. You view my God as illogical. I don't.

dhw: Yes, he chose evolution of all life forms including humans. That does not mean he had only one purpose and chose not to fulfil it for 3.X billion years but instead had to design all the other life forms etc. And I do not view your God as illogical. It is your view of your God that I consider to be illogical – and so do you, because you can’t understand his choices.

I accept His choice to evolve. Perfectly logical in view of the known history of evolution.