Different in degree or kind: Egnor's take (Introduction)

by dhw, Monday, October 24, 2016, 13:03 (2952 days ago) @ David Turell

David’s comment Under “Explaining Crispr”: Note these are man-made modifications of bacterial defense enzymes. What is always striking to me is that bacteria in evolving these huge molecules had to invent them. Enzymes are giant in size and have loci which will grab both sides of a reaction, hold the molecules together and force a reaction that would otherwise take years to occur. Chance logically cannot create this. Saltation is logical.

dhw: A very striking comment. First of all, saltation is not the opposite of chance, but simply lengthens the odds against chance.
DAVID: Saltation means a giant change, not Darwinian evolution.

We have agreed a hundred times that we do not accept chance or Darwin’s gradualism, and we do accept saltation, which means a leap but does not necessarily preclude chance. However, my focus was on your excellent observation that bacteria had to INVENT the huge molecules – a hypothesis which seems more likely to me than your God intervening or preprogramming the huge molecules, along with everything else bacteria come up with.