Different in degree or kind: more Denton: (Introduction)

by dhw, Thursday, February 25, 2016, 13:37 (3194 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw: So that must be what God intended, which is why he deliberately created a mechanism that would provide a RANDOMLY changing array of life forms. And what God intended is what we mean by theistic teleology. - DAVID: That is what you mean by theistic evolution. My definition is that God invented the mechanism of evolution and controls its outcome. And the final evidence in human beings, not the bush of organisms on the way, which are necessary for a balance in nature so everyone gets energy for life to survive. - Theistic evolution can be ANY interpretation of evolution that incorporates God. Theistic teleology is whatever purpose we ascribe to God. Since YOUR interpretation of evolution and God's purpose rejects any role for chance and makes humans the goal from the very beginning, it does indeed make Darwinian evolution incompatible with theistic teleology. But sadly, neither David Turell nor dhw nor your Christian ID-er has a monopoly on how to interpret evolution or on how to read God's mind, and I have offered you an ALTERNATIVE reading of both which makes Darwinian evolution perfectly compatible with theistic teleology. That is why “the claim that Darwinian evolution is not compatible with theistic teleology depends on a purely subjective interpretation of God's purpose.” The remainder of your post bypasses the issue we are dealing with, which is the Christian ID-er's attempt to draw a definitive line between evolution and theistic teleology.


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