Different in degree or kind: our hands (Introduction)

by David Turell , Friday, March 11, 2016, 15:26 (3179 days ago) @ dhw

Dhw...Yet you won't even consider the possibility that your God gave the weaverbird the intelligence to design its own nest!
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> DAVID: I always admitted that He might have left the weaver birds with instructions they could follow to do it on their own but you won't accept an IM with guidelines. You want the bird (brains) to do it own their own, which implies advanced planning to achieve the design. I thought you had abandoned the Darwinian hunt-and-peck advances.
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> dhw: I realize attack is the best method of defence,-But you really haven't answered me and explained how weaver birds invent their nest on their own, considering its complexity. You use the birds as a key point, but we know crows seem brighter according to Corvid research. And you follow below with your usual lists of things you do not understand the purpose of, on the way to the creation of humans, which is the most significant fact to try to explain.-> dhw: but my post questioned the logic behind your belief that your God provided the first cells with instructions or programmes to be passed down, ..... all for the sake of producing or feeding humans. You call this “reasoning to the best solution”, and do not even regard it as questionable.-If one looks at the process as purposeful, my 'best solution' is reasonable. I see purpose, you don't-> dhw: Your reasoning seems to be that humans are so unique - even though they did descend from earlier organisms, with which they share the majority of their characteristics - that your God could not have had any other purpose for creating all the above. -Right!!!-> dhw:You yourself sometimes admit you don't really understand why he had to go through such a rigmarole in order to produce us but, as with most beliefs and disbeliefs in this context, it doesn't matter if the facts don't seem to fit the theory: the basic premise must stand, and everything else is just a matter of “loose ends”. -I don't see your facts that don't fit. I've explained balance of nature to you, which I think is the source of much of your confusion.-
> dhw: I can understand why you prefer to ignore the rest of my post and take a snipe at Darwin instead.-I repeat, under your scheme of things how did the birds invent the nest? It seems hunt and peck is all you can offer, or what is your otherwise nebulous theory?