ID commentary on animal minds (Introduction)

by David Turell , Sunday, January 10, 2016, 21:43 (3240 days ago) @ dhw


> DAVID: It is reasonable to consider a hierarchy of consciousness as this article appears to suggest. Very simple consciousness in ants for example. Human consciousness vastly different and really of a different kind. I think we both agree consciousness seems to pervade the universe, and certainly is a part of quantum mechanics.
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> dhw: I'm not sure about the universe, though that is part of panpsychist thinking and may offer an alternative to the hypothesis that the universe was created by a single sourceless mind. I feel more confident about the consciousness of living organisms. -And I don't accept that any degree of consciousness developed from an inorganic universe, unless by purpose. It is a giant step. Note the following:-"Physicist Vlatko Vedral explains to Aleks Krotoski why he believes the fundamental stuff of the universe is information and how he hopes that one day everything will be explained in this way."-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfQ2r0zvyoA-Watch the video. Information can only come from a mind, the universal consciousness.-Summary of book review:-http://www.uncommondescent.com/cosmology/physicist-information-is-basis-of-everything/-"In Decoding Reality, Vlatko Vedral offers a mind-stretching look at the deepest questions about the universe-where everything comes from, why things are as they are, what everything is.-"The most fundamental definition of reality is not matter or energy, he writes, but information-and it is the processing of information that lies at the root of all physical, biological, economic, and social phenomena. This view allows Vedral to address a host of seemingly unrelated questions: Why does DNA bind like it does? What is the ideal diet for longevity? How do you make your first million dollars? We can unify all through the understanding that everything consists of bits of information, he writes, though that raises the question of where these bits come from. To find the answer, he takes us on a guided tour through the bizarre realm of quantum physics. At this sub-sub-subatomic level, we find such things as the interaction of separated quantum particles-what Einstein called “spooky action at a distance.” In fact, Vedral notes, recent evidence suggests that quantum weirdness, once thought to be limited to the tiniest scale, may actually reach into the macro world and make teleportation a real possibility. It is in quantum physics, he writes, that we really can find the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything.-
"Vlatko Vedral is one of the key researchers in quantum science. In this book, he offers a mind-bending account of this leading-edge field."