Evolution took a long time (Introduction)

by dhw, Tuesday, February 14, 2017, 12:05 (2839 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw:I didn’t say that the presence of humans “creates emotions in Him”. My point is a) that (if he exists) he must have had a reason for creating humans, and b) it is not unreasonable to suppose that since nothing existed before him, he may share some of the attributes with which he has endowed us humans.

DAVID: We have gone 'round and 'round about this subject. You have your view. I have mine. I try to humanize Him as little as possible. You more so. It doesn't go anywhere.

As regards going nowhere, see my post under “particles and connections”. Initially you dismissed my alternative view of God as “humanizing”. Now you have realized that you too are humanizing him, and so it becomes a matter of degree and not going anywhere. But we are going somewhere, as is clear from the following exchange:

DAVID: And I'm sure He is watching. My humanizing approach is quite opposite yours.
dhw: That is the nub of the whole matter. You dismiss alternative versions of your God’s purpose on the grounds that they “humanize” him, though you admit that your own version also humanizes him. The problem is quite simply that you do not want to consider any view of God’s purpose that differs from your own. One last question: since you are always the one looking for purpose, and since you are sure God created us, and since you are sure God is watching us, what do you think might be God’s purpose for watching us?

DAVID: He created us. Why shouldn't He be interested in seeing how we handle problems? Interested not purposeful.

Thank you for putting my case for me. If he created us in order to set us problems, and now watches us with interest, it is not beyond the bounds of possibility that he actually created us so that he would have something interesting to watch.


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