Life's biologic complexity: Automatic molecular actions (Introduction)

by David Turell @, Sunday, December 04, 2016, 17:33 (2671 days ago) @ dhw


dhw: And since, according to you, only God is capable of creating the innovations that have led to speciation, God is responsible for making the organisms incapable of withstanding what he now apparently quite deliberately throws at them. For some reason which has never been clear to me, you object to this reasoning.
The fact that you are not sure about some regions of your theories does not explain why you object to my reasoning.

I look at God's purpose behind all of the events, You never look at purpose. When God wants to get rid of a family of species, of course He can bring up something they cannot handle, and that is what happened with the dinos. His purpose is humans. Why He didn't just start at the Garden of Eden, I cannot explain, but He used evolution.


dhw: Thank you for accepting my summary of your current beliefs. You already know my explanation, but here yet again is the theistic version (the atheistic version, of course, substitutes chance for God as the prime cause). From the outset your God set up a system of randomly changing environments (just as humans can set up systems that produce random numbers). He endowed cells/cell communities with sentience and intelligence, whereby some would be able to cope with change by adapting, others would be able to exploit it by inventing new means of coping with it, but others would be unable to do either and would perish. This has resulted in the history of life as we know it: an ever changing spectacle of comings and goings, including mass extinctions, of adaptations, and of innovations (leading to speciation). The essence of this spectacle is unpredictability, but your God always had the option to intervene, and it is possible that he did so in the case of humans. The unpredictability of a self-conscious being would certainly enhance the spectacle.

As usual you avoid the idea that God has a purpose. Thus a helter-skelter evolutionary process in your view. His purpose was to produce complexity in organisms which I have shown and eventually humans, the most complex.


dhw: With this scenario, there is no need to explain why the weaverbird’s nest is essential to the existence of humans, why God had to specially design and then deliberately destroy 99% of species in order to produce humans, or how God’s “total control” can be reconciled with the possibility that he does not control the environment. So please tell me what aspect of my hypothesis does NOT fit the facts of the history of evolution.

Just as I don't accept unicellular intelligence, you don't accept the importance of the balance of nature. Same double standard by your principles. As for destroying species no longer needed, the Earth has just so much room for living matter. Maaks way for new advances.


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