Evolution took a long time (Introduction)

by David Turell , Wednesday, February 01, 2017, 15:46 (2852 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: Now please tell us what you think is his reason or motive for wanting to have a relationship with us.

I can turn it around on you: if we have consciousness we can communicate with Him. I can ask you why did He give us consciousness if not to communicate?

dhw: Yes, all living organisms need energy. How does that make the weaverbird’s nest etc. relevant to the production of humans?

It doesn't by itself, but it is part of a necessary pattern of the balance of nature.

dhw: And so the balance of nature argument merely refers to whatever organisms happen to be in existence at any particular time. It has absolutely nothing to do with the targeted production of humans, who in any case according to you had to be specially dabbled.

Again you ignore that the balance provides energy for life to continue so evolution can proceed.

DAVID: Not all I mean and you know it. Balance is studied scientifically and the best balance can be restored: Wolves in Yellowstone has returned everything back to the way it was in the 19th century.

dhw: I don’t think any of us would dispute that harmful invaders damage the environment and destroy what we humans consider to be a healthy “balance” for ourselves and for wildlife. However, this has nothing to do with your hypothesis that God specially designed the nest, the migratory lifestyle, the camouflage etc. in order to “balance nature” in order to produce humans. And so the “invader” argument, and hence the “balance of nature” argument, is irrelevant to your anthropocentric interpretation of the whole of evolutionary history, where its meaning is nothing more than that life goes on.

I work backward: humans are here, for no good requirement I can see when looking at the challenges to life in general. I accept that point as a given starting point to try toexplain humans. The rest of my reasoning follows from that. I'm sorry it seems so strange to you.