Evolution took a long time (Introduction)

by David Turell , Saturday, January 21, 2017, 15:23 (2863 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: Because I see evidence they have the smarts to do it. the changes in the gaps is generally too complex.

dhw: I presume you mean “no evidence”. ... And you wonder why I accuse you of double standards.

Yes, no evidence. If you would study the degree of physiological and phenotypic change in a new species you would understand why complex planning is required. It is no double standard to accept this requirement for speciation. You want God to endow prior organisms with this capacity for evolutionary complexity, and I don't believe He has. The only organism that has that possible capacity are current humans and we have to turn to natural mechanisms for guidance: Velco as an example. Brainy analysis is logically required. Your autonomous IM is a proposal with no logic behind it.

dhw: You have missed the point. You refuse to accept the possibility that God might allow life to follow its own course – i.e. that he would sacrifice control. Human free will is an analogy. If he is prepared to let humans do their own thing, why would he not be prepared to let the cells do their own thing? Sacrificing control is the point of the analogy.

DAVID: Because I think humans are the goal and most likely won't arrive by a chance process of evolution.

dhw: It doesn’t have to be chance. ...If you stand by your agreement that the autonomous, intelligent, inventive mechanism is possible, and you stop insisting that only God could plan or dabble every solution/innovation/ natural wonder, we could finally move on.

You admit God might dabble. So, God is in ultimate control. That is my point.