Evolution took a long time (Introduction)

by dhw, Monday, January 09, 2017, 12:21 (2875 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw: I’m not sure why you use the word “stored”. Memory and information are stored, but nobody knows the source of intelligence in the sense of cognizance, information-processing, decision-making etc. Albrecht-Bühler thinks the control centre of the cell is the centrosome.
Guenter Albrecht-Buehler: Cell Intelligence
www.basic.northwestern.edu/g-buehler/FRAME.HTM
Unless you believe your God personally instructs every single bacterium on how to solve every single problem, where is his 3.8-billion-year computer programme for every solution “stored”? If we know every molecule, why hasn’t it been found?

DAVID: Because one of the molecules is DNA and we don't know but a tiny portion of its attributes. The instructions are there.

The undiscovered, 3.8-billion-year-old instructions for every solution to every problem throughout the history of bacterial life past, present and future are stored in a molecule we don’t know much about, but we do know enough about all the molecules to say that the intelligent behaviour of bacteria can’t be caused by intelligence. The wonders of science.

dhw: An experimenting God would at least explain the disappearance of 99% of what you insist he personally created. As of course would the autonomous, intelligent, inventive mechanism which in your last post you kindly accepted as a possibility.
DAVID: I accepted a stepwise process for the IM.

You wrote: “The organism freely tries a change and God approves or alters the change. The initiative starts with the organism, not God.” How can a mechanism that freely tries a change be anything but a free mechanism for change? The next “step” according to you is a divine dabble unless the work of the autonomous, intelligent, inventive mechanism has had his approval.

DAVID: The organisms makes an adaptation and God either accepts or adjusts. But we know evolution existed. You want God to wander around befuddled. The answer is simple God prefers evolving things, the evolving universe, evolving life.

You don’t have to wander around befuddled in order to conduct a scientific experiment. I am simply offering you different theistic hypotheses that will remove the illogicality of your own hypothesis, which is that God personally designed the different pre-whales, the monarch’s lifestyle and the weaverbird’s nest (plus millions of other organisms, lifestyles and natural wonders extant and extinct) in order to keep life going in order to produce humans. The intentional free-for-all spectacle, humans as an afterthought, an experimental quest for a creature resembling himself – all of these offer theistic alternatives that provide a logical explanation for the higgledy-piggledy history of evolution.