Immunity in humans and all animals: feedback loops (Introduction)
Another example of an immunity feedback loop involving the timed survival of activated T cells:
http://medicalxpress.com/news/2016-11-tick-tock-immune-cells.html
"An Australian research team has revealed that two internal 'clocks' control the immune cells enlisted to fight infection. This discovery upends previous theories on how immune responses are regulated.
"The team discovered that during an immune response the clocks allocate a certain amount of time in which the cells can divide, as well as prescribing the cells' lifespan. The finding sheds new light on how the body controls immune responses,
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"Immune T cells are programmed to recognise different microbes that may cause infection. When this happens responding T cells are 'activated', and increase in number by dividing. The number of cells formed and how long they live is tightly controlled to ensure the infection can be successfully fought and any excess immune cells are cleared out of the body.
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"Dr Heinzel said the team discovered activated T cells in an immune response are programmed to divide for a limited time. "We had previously shown the number of cells a 'parent' T cell produces is tightly regulated," she said. "The suspicion was the T cell 'knows' how many times it can divide. We were stunned to find this wasn't the case - the T cell is given an amount of time in which it can divide, like a clock running," she said. "Once this time is up, no more divisions can happen.
"'Intriguingly, as well as being allocated a certain amount of time in which to divide, early in an infection, we found T cells separately set their lifespan, how long they and their offspring live. After this time expires, the cells undergo apoptosis, a form of cell suicide," Dr Heinzel said.
"Professor Hodgkin said the team built on their discovery of the two-clock system by pinpointing a protein called Myc that acts as the cell division clock. "At the start of an immune response, responding T cells are allocated a certain amount of Myc," he said. "This diminishes over time, and once the cell runs out of Myc, time's up and division stops. The more Myc there is, the more time the cells have to divide.
"'We also showed the lifespan clock is controlled by a protein called Bcl-2 - when this time runs out the cells die, whether or not they've come to the end of their division clock," he said.
"Dr Heinzel said the research provided new insights into how complex immune responses are controlled, and the fine balance between normal cell division and cancerous cell growth. "The two clocks are an elegant way that our body governs how many responder cells are produced in an immune response, and how long they are retained," she said. "Small changes in each clock combined to substantially alter immune cell numbers."
Comment: A perfect example of a feedback loop. When a mechanism appears in evolution, to control it, the feedback loop has to appear at the same time. Only a saltation satisfies this requirement. It will take several mutations working together.
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- Immunity system complexity: how E coli fights our system -
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2022-08-10, 22:45
- Immunity system complexity: more on T cell controls -
David Turell,
2022-08-15, 22:21
- Immunity system complexity: spotting attackers -
David Turell,
2022-08-22, 17:30
- Immunity system complexity: spotting attackers in bacterias -
David Turell,
2022-09-02, 19:40
- Immunity system complexity: keeping T cells ageless -
David Turell,
2022-09-15, 18:36
- Immunity system complexity: keeping fungus at bay -
David Turell,
2022-09-21, 17:52
- Immunity system complexity: aging T cells don't fade away -
David Turell,
2022-09-22, 01:12
- Immunity system complexity: aging T cells don't fade away -
David Turell,
2022-09-23, 18:17
- Immunity system complexity: early evolution -
David Turell,
2022-09-27, 21:21
- Immunity system complexity: superchargng T cells -
David Turell,
2022-12-23, 01:32
- Immunity system complexity: ramping up B cells -
David Turell,
2022-12-23, 18:43
- Immunity system complexity: ramping up B cells -
David Turell,
2022-12-24, 15:44
- Immunity system complexity: supporting T cells. -
David Turell,
2023-01-13, 18:26
- Immunity system complexity: T cells. support neurons -
David Turell,
2023-01-14, 15:48
- Immunity system complexity: innate and secondary -
David Turell,
2023-01-19, 22:15
- Immunity system complexity: innate and secondary -
David Turell,
2023-01-21, 19:49
- Immunity system complexity: control of reactions -
David Turell,
2023-02-03, 18:25
- Immunity system complexity: detecting infections -
David Turell,
2023-02-05, 22:28
- Immunity system complexity: detecting danger in C elegans - David Turell, 2024-11-12, 19:05
- Immunity system complexity: detecting infections -
David Turell,
2023-02-05, 22:28
- Immunity system complexity: control of reactions -
David Turell,
2023-02-03, 18:25
- Immunity system complexity: innate and secondary -
David Turell,
2023-01-21, 19:49
- Immunity system complexity: innate and secondary -
David Turell,
2023-01-19, 22:15
- Immunity system complexity: T cells. support neurons -
David Turell,
2023-01-14, 15:48
- Immunity system complexity: supporting T cells. -
David Turell,
2023-01-13, 18:26
- Immunity system complexity: ramping up B cells -
David Turell,
2022-12-24, 15:44
- Immunity system complexity: ramping up B cells -
David Turell,
2022-12-23, 18:43
- Immunity system complexity: superchargng T cells -
David Turell,
2022-12-23, 01:32
- Immunity system complexity: early evolution -
David Turell,
2022-09-27, 21:21
- Immunity system complexity: aging T cells don't fade away -
David Turell,
2022-09-23, 18:17
- Immunity system complexity: aging T cells don't fade away -
David Turell,
2022-09-22, 01:12
- Immunity system complexity: keeping fungus at bay -
David Turell,
2022-09-21, 17:52
- Immunity system complexity: keeping T cells ageless -
David Turell,
2022-09-15, 18:36
- Immunity system complexity: spotting attackers in bacterias -
David Turell,
2022-09-02, 19:40
- Immunity system complexity: spotting attackers -
David Turell,
2022-08-22, 17:30
- Immunity system complexity: more on T cell controls -
David Turell,
2022-08-15, 22:21
- Immunity system complexity: specialized corneal T cells -
David Turell,
2022-06-06, 20:08
- Immunity system complexity: glia cells everywhere -
David Turell,
2022-06-03, 19:25
- Immunity system complexity: how bacterial ssytem works -
David Turell,
2022-06-02, 20:10
- Immunity system complexity: special brain coverage -
David Turell,
2022-06-02, 00:26
- Immunity system complexity: B & T cell training -
David Turell,
2022-06-01, 19:54
- Immunity system complexity: T cell maintenance -
David Turell,
2022-05-28, 18:51
- Immunity system complexity: T cell differentiating daughters -
David Turell,
2022-05-20, 22:51
- Immunity system complexity: T cell differentiating enemies -
David Turell,
2022-05-20, 17:20
- Immunity system complexity: a B cell is found, new -
David Turell,
2022-05-13, 17:54
- Immunity system complexity: macrophage spread -
David Turell,
2022-04-23, 19:47
- Immunity system complexity: T c ell activity -
David Turell,
2022-04-16, 20:36
- Immunity system complexity: protecting the brain -
David Turell,
2022-03-17, 14:07
- Immunity system complexity: telling self from non-self -
David Turell,
2022-02-15, 17:35
- Immunity system complexity: innate immunity at work -
David Turell,
2023-01-28, 17:49
- Immunity system complexity:innate immunity NK cells at work -
David Turell,
2023-02-10, 18:53
- Immunity system complexity: transfers at birth - David Turell, 2023-02-13, 19:46
- Immunity system complexity:innate immunity NK cells at work -
David Turell,
2023-02-10, 18:53
- Immunity system complexity: how chlamydia escapes detection -
David Turell,
2023-02-23, 18:12
- Immunity system complexity: how B cells recognize antigens -
David Turell,
2023-03-10, 20:46
- Immunity system complexity: control dangerous bugs in gut -
David Turell,
2023-03-13, 22:53
- Immunity system complexity: gasdermin-B reviewed -
David Turell,
2023-03-30, 18:45
- Immunity system complexity: sentinel cell activation -
David Turell,
2023-03-31, 23:37
- Immunity system complexity: the role of IgA -
David Turell,
2023-05-30, 17:20
- Immunity system complexity: triggering inflammation -
David Turell,
2023-06-17, 18:22
- Immunity system complexity: fungal spore defense -
David Turell,
2023-06-21, 02:54
- Immunity system complexity: cellular viral defenses -
David Turell,
2023-06-28, 19:59
- Immunity system complexity: neutrophile activation -
David Turell,
2023-06-30, 17:59
- Immunity system complexity: skin protections -
David Turell,
2023-07-04, 15:16
- Immunity system complexity: triggering protein -
David Turell,
2023-07-26, 22:11
- Immunity system complexity: the brain's involvement -
David Turell,
2023-07-27, 18:36
- Immunity system complexity: new T cell triggers -
David Turell,
2023-08-19, 16:40
- Immunity system complexity: special T cells im cornea -
David Turell,
2023-08-23, 19:39
- Immunity system complexity: T cell triggers to fight cancer -
David Turell,
2023-09-30, 18:48
- Immunity system complexity: protecting pregnancy -
David Turell,
2023-11-14, 22:38
- Immunity system complexity: how bacteria fight phages -
David Turell,
2023-11-15, 19:30
- Immunity system complexity: how lipids help -
David Turell,
2023-11-27, 20:22
- Immunity system complexity: more B cell functions -
David Turell,
2023-11-27, 21:02
- Immunity system complexity: why fever -
David Turell,
2023-11-28, 19:27
- Immunity system complexity: bacterial molecular attacks -
David Turell,
2023-12-12, 18:42
- Immunity system complexity: response to flu vacines -
David Turell,
2023-12-22, 16:12
- Immunity system complexity: specialized T cells -
David Turell,
2023-12-29, 00:48
- Immunity system complexity: specialized T cells -
David Turell,
2024-01-03, 16:35
- Immunity system complexity: preventing kidney stones -
David Turell,
2024-01-08, 17:51
- Immunity system complexity: gut immune cells imporrtance -
David Turell,
2024-01-09, 15:42
- Immunity system complexity: production at high speed -
David Turell,
2024-01-12, 18:30
- Immunity system complexity: killer T cells promote repair -
David Turell,
2024-01-16, 20:40
- Immunity system complexity: helps digest chitin -
David Turell,
2024-01-17, 17:27
- Immunity system complexity: bacterial spears -
David Turell,
2024-01-18, 18:25
- Immunity system complexity: bacterial spears -
David Turell,
2024-01-18, 18:26
- Immunity system complexity: RNA guiding neutrophiles -
David Turell,
2024-01-22, 18:24
- Immunity system complexity: a new function of B cells -
David Turell,
2024-02-10, 20:20
- Immunity system complexity: guiding cells to infections -
David Turell,
2024-02-18, 19:18
- Immunity system complexity: T cells to attack or not -
David Turell,
2024-03-10, 20:31
- Immunity system complexity: RNA guides T cells -
David Turell,
2024-04-02, 17:55
- Immunity system complexity: pre-programmed T cells -
David Turell,
2024-06-07, 14:30
- Immunity system complexity: a functional DNA fragment -
David Turell,
2024-06-10, 17:18
- Immunity system complexity: controls of cell death -
David Turell,
2024-06-16, 22:15
- Immunity system complexity: brain stem controls -
David Turell,
2024-06-19, 18:11
- Immunity system complexity: special T cells in brain -
David Turell,
2024-09-04, 19:44
- Immunity system complexity: thanks to Asgard Archaea -
David Turell,
2024-09-08, 17:05
- Immunity system complexity: DNA hunts pathogens -
David Turell,
2024-09-22, 17:13
- Immunity system complexity: macrophages repair lungs - David Turell, 2024-10-09, 17:59
- Immunity system complexity: DNA hunts pathogens -
David Turell,
2024-09-22, 17:13
- Immunity system complexity: thanks to Asgard Archaea -
David Turell,
2024-09-08, 17:05
- Immunity system complexity: special T cells in brain -
David Turell,
2024-09-04, 19:44
- Immunity system complexity: brain stem controls -
David Turell,
2024-06-19, 18:11
- Immunity system complexity: controls of cell death -
David Turell,
2024-06-16, 22:15
- Immunity system complexity: a functional DNA fragment -
David Turell,
2024-06-10, 17:18
- Immunity system complexity: pre-programmed T cells -
David Turell,
2024-06-07, 14:30
- Immunity system complexity: RNA guides T cells -
David Turell,
2024-04-02, 17:55
- Immunity system complexity: T cells to attack or not -
David Turell,
2024-03-10, 20:31
- Immunity system complexity: guiding cells to infections -
David Turell,
2024-02-18, 19:18
- Immunity system complexity: a new function of B cells -
David Turell,
2024-02-10, 20:20
- Immunity system complexity: RNA guiding neutrophiles -
David Turell,
2024-01-22, 18:24
- Immunity system complexity: bacterial spears -
David Turell,
2024-01-18, 18:26
- Immunity system complexity: bacterial spears -
David Turell,
2024-01-18, 18:25
- Immunity system complexity: helps digest chitin -
David Turell,
2024-01-17, 17:27
- Immunity system complexity: killer T cells promote repair -
David Turell,
2024-01-16, 20:40
- Immunity system complexity: production at high speed -
David Turell,
2024-01-12, 18:30
- Immunity system complexity: gut immune cells imporrtance -
David Turell,
2024-01-09, 15:42
- Immunity system complexity: preventing kidney stones -
David Turell,
2024-01-08, 17:51
- Immunity system complexity: specialized T cells -
David Turell,
2024-01-03, 16:35
- Immunity system complexity: specialized T cells -
David Turell,
2023-12-29, 00:48
- Immunity system complexity: response to flu vacines -
David Turell,
2023-12-22, 16:12
- Immunity system complexity: bacterial molecular attacks -
David Turell,
2023-12-12, 18:42
- Immunity system complexity: why fever -
David Turell,
2023-11-28, 19:27
- Immunity system complexity: more B cell functions -
David Turell,
2023-11-27, 21:02
- Immunity system complexity: how lipids help -
David Turell,
2023-11-27, 20:22
- Immunity system complexity: how bacteria fight phages -
David Turell,
2023-11-15, 19:30
- Immunity system complexity: protecting pregnancy -
David Turell,
2023-11-14, 22:38
- Immunity system complexity: T cell triggers to fight cancer -
David Turell,
2023-09-30, 18:48
- Immunity system complexity: special T cells im cornea -
David Turell,
2023-08-23, 19:39
- Immunity system complexity: new T cell triggers -
David Turell,
2023-08-19, 16:40
- Immunity system complexity: the brain's involvement -
David Turell,
2023-07-27, 18:36
- Immunity system complexity: triggering protein -
David Turell,
2023-07-26, 22:11
- Immunity system complexity: skin protections -
David Turell,
2023-07-04, 15:16
- Immunity system complexity: neutrophile activation -
David Turell,
2023-06-30, 17:59
- Immunity system complexity: cellular viral defenses -
David Turell,
2023-06-28, 19:59
- Immunity system complexity: fungal spore defense -
David Turell,
2023-06-21, 02:54
- Immunity system complexity: triggering inflammation -
David Turell,
2023-06-17, 18:22
- Immunity system complexity: the role of IgA -
David Turell,
2023-05-30, 17:20
- Immunity system complexity: sentinel cell activation -
David Turell,
2023-03-31, 23:37
- Immunity system complexity: gasdermin-B reviewed -
David Turell,
2023-03-30, 18:45
- Immunity system complexity: control dangerous bugs in gut -
David Turell,
2023-03-13, 22:53
- Immunity system complexity: how B cells recognize antigens -
David Turell,
2023-03-10, 20:46
- Immunity system complexity: how T cells are triggered -
David Turell,
2023-10-25, 16:27
- Immunity system complexity: role of Vitamin D and gut biome - David Turell, 2024-07-21, 18:59
- Immunity system complexity: sniffing out invaders -
David Turell,
2024-11-20, 22:51
- Immunity system complexity: development in the fetus -
David Turell,
2024-11-22, 21:54
- Immunity system complexity: kidney protection -
David Turell,
2024-11-24, 19:39
- Immunity system complexity: battling Pseudomonas -
David Turell,
2024-11-25, 18:09
- Immunity system complexity: male female T cells differ aging -
David Turell,
2024-12-08, 20:14
- Immunity system complexity: the reason for fever -
David Turell,
2025-01-25, 19:21
- Immunity system complexity: long term exhaustion -
David Turell,
2025-02-01, 18:23
- Immunity system complexity: protection in the gut - David Turell, 2025-02-04, 17:45
- Immunity system complexity: long term exhaustion -
David Turell,
2025-02-01, 18:23
- Immunity system complexity: the reason for fever -
David Turell,
2025-01-25, 19:21
- Immunity system complexity: male female T cells differ aging -
David Turell,
2024-12-08, 20:14
- Immunity system complexity: battling Pseudomonas -
David Turell,
2024-11-25, 18:09
- Immunity system complexity: kidney protection -
David Turell,
2024-11-24, 19:39
- Immunity system complexity: development in the fetus -
David Turell,
2024-11-22, 21:54
- Immunity system complexity: how T cells are triggered -
dhw,
2019-04-09, 08:34
- Immunity system complexity: how T cells are triggered -
David Turell,
2019-04-08, 15:06
- Immunity system complexity: how T cells are triggered -
dhw,
2019-04-08, 11:29
- Immunity system complexity: how T cells are triggered -
David Turell,
2019-04-07, 18:24
- Immunity system complexity: how T cells are triggered -
dhw,
2019-04-07, 09:38
- Immunity system complexity: how T cells are triggered -
David Turell,
2019-04-06, 19:51
- Immunity system complexity: how T cells are triggered -
dhw,
2019-04-06, 13:20
- Immunity system complexity: how T cells are triggered -
David Turell,
2019-04-05, 15:24
- Immunity system complexity: how T cells are triggered -
dhw,
2019-04-05, 09:27
- Immunity system complexity: how T cells are triggered -
David Turell,
2019-04-04, 15:03
- Immunity system complexity: controlling gut biome -
David Turell,
2021-10-13, 18:51
- Immunity system complexity: how T c ells kill - David Turell, 2021-10-14, 20:07
- Immunity system complexity: controlling gut biome - David Turell, 2022-02-28, 19:31
- Immunity system complexity: how T cells are triggered -
dhw,
2019-04-04, 12:21
- Immunity system complexity: how T cells are triggered -
David Turell,
2019-04-03, 17:52
- Immunity system complexity: how T cells are triggered -
dhw,
2019-04-03, 12:57
- Immunity system complexity: B cell controls - David Turell, 2021-09-23, 18:05
- Immunity system complexity: how T cells are triggered -
David Turell,
2019-04-02, 14:57
- Immunity system complexity: trained reactions in non-immune - David Turell, 2021-07-27, 19:24
- Immunity system complexity: how T cells are triggered -
dhw,
2019-04-02, 10:45
- Immunity system complexity: red cells are a part of it -
David Turell,
2021-10-21, 16:13
- Immunity system complexity: viruses fight our immunity -
David Turell,
2022-10-26, 00:08
- Immunity system complexity: viruses fight bat immunity -
David Turell,
2022-11-24, 17:17
- Immunity system complexity: viruses fight with CRISPR - David Turell, 2022-11-24, 19:48
- Immunity system complexity: viruses fight bat immunity -
David Turell,
2022-11-24, 17:17
- Immunity system complexity: viruses fight our immunity -
David Turell,
2022-10-26, 00:08
- Immunity system complexity: how T cells are triggered -
David Turell,
2019-04-01, 20:04
- Immunity system complexity -
David Turell,
2019-02-15, 01:42
- Immunity in humans; Bad antibodies are really good -
David Turell,
2018-04-20, 19:45
- Immunity in humans; fetal development -
David Turell,
2017-06-15, 18:45
- Immunity in humans; long term immunity from plasma cells -
David Turell,
2017-02-21, 21:45
- Immunity in humans; fungus protections are innate -
David Turell,
2016-12-20, 00:30