Concepts of God: God does not exist in time (The nature of a \'Creator\')

by David Turell , Saturday, February 27, 2021, 14:34 (1147 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: I must remind that Feser was an atheist and now a highly regarded Catholic philosopher. Time is our concept, not God's. God does not create in anticipation of watching with interest that creation in the future. As stated, 1776 is the same as 2021 to God. If this seems disjointed, it is. Read the entire long entry for completeness.

dhw: No, thank you. I would not even have commented on this if it were not for your claim that your God does not create in anticipation of watching with interest...How do you or Feser know that past, present and future are “all the same” to God. You spend hours of your life (and mine) trying to demonstrate all the befores and afters as your God deliberately fine-tuned the universe in order to produce an environment that would later sustain life forms which would start off with single-celled organisms and would later evolve into different life forms, which would later culminate in humans. That sequence denotes the reality of time and your God’s use of it. And you yourself repeat ad nauseam that all his programmes and his operations and his lecture courses are In ANTICIPATION of what is to come. So how can you now support a “highly regarded Catholic philosopher” who is telling you that all your theories about evolution and planning for the future are wrong?

It is obvious you do not understand Feder's point in any way. It shows why you have no clue why I tell you you are humanizing God. We live in time, God does not. You are using what happens to us to apply the use of time to God as if He lives in our time. Feser is a Thomist, whose philosophy I have accepted in large part, but not the trinitarianism. Have you forgotten that when the universe appeared, time started? That alone makes God timeless. So don't do some reading for yourself, especially when you assume the imagined role of theist.