Concepts of God: universe too big for Him? (The nature of a \'Creator\')

by dhw, Wednesday, November 08, 2017, 13:12 (255 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: Your rebuttal is off point. I objected to their premise about about God' purposes taken from the Bible. I don't start from the Bible's suppositions. They do.

dhw: The biblical references simply illustrate the point that God is supposed to be “human-oriented”. So looking at the above quotes, and bearing in mind that you yourself have admitted that you can’t explain the big universe, do you disagree with the claim that a God who you believe created the whole of life for the purpose of producing the brain of Homo sapiens is human-oriented?

DAVID: Of course God is human oriented. We have part of His universal consciousness through the brain He gave us. Once again, the giant universe is not an argument for atheism.

You claimed the fallacy in their reasoning was that the authors relied on the Bible, and it is “not clear that the Bible's description of God's purpose and thoughts are accurate, since the books of the Bible are written by humans who would like God to be close and prefer doing nice things for humans.” The Bible makes God human-oriented, and so do you. May I suggest that ALTHOUGH you agree with the Bible’s teaching that God is human-oriented, you do not regard the giant universe as a reason for atheism. For you the fallacy in the authors’ reasoning would then be that your God must have had a human-oriented reason for the giant universe, even though you can’t think of one. Alternatively a different type of theist could argue that the giant universe merely indicates that God was NOT human-oriented but had other purposes in mind.


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