Concepts of God (The nature of a \'Creator\')

by romansh , Sunday, May 01, 2016, 20:43 (3126 days ago) @ David Turell

Romansh: Actually it is not just charges that seem to add up zero ... it is energy in all its forms mass, gravitational etc.
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> David: Yes, I understood that. Where does dark energy and dark mass fit in? When Guth wrote in The Inflationary Universe that with gravity the energy in the universe was zero, there was no knowledge of dark mass or energy. I know they are opposite but not in equal proportions. Does the sum still get to zero?-Apparently yes.-
> > Romansh: Ultimately this discussion is about the asymmetry of the "nothing", whether it be Krauss's real one or your imaginary one. Even in your imaginary one ... it is not nothing.
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> David:Thank you. We can conceive of a complete void, but I doubt one ever existed, since there is something.-Yes you and Krauss agree that your imaginary nothing does not exist. In your case it is God, in Krauss' (and Hawking's and no doubt many other scientists' views) it is simply a quantum fluctuation.