Concepts of God (The nature of a \'Creator\')

by romansh , Saturday, April 23, 2016, 02:17 (3135 days ago) @ David Turell

Romansh: Do you have a reason to assume that "nothing" is the default state for this or any other universe?
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> David: No, there has always been something. True nothingness not produce something.
Then there is no reason assume any magical deities. All we have to assume is a Krauss like nothing. No magic necessary, no first cause necessary. No imaginary 'nothing' necessary. Just the nothing we experience.
 
> > Romansh: Having said that ... I don't believe that humans are responsible for first causes.
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> David: Humans are first causes of processes they create. Cause and effect exists.-I would argue this is plain wrong!-I did not assemble myself. Cause and effect did.