Consciousness: and brain damage (General)

by David Turell , Saturday, January 27, 2018, 00:30 (2491 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: I will resist any attempt to analyze a humanized God. I won't even try, as you keep doing. We cannot know as you point out. Why try? All my other opinions that you list above are based on reasoned thought as you stated. Your view of God differs from mine.

dhw: We cannot know if God exists. Why try? We cannot know God’s purpose. Why try? We cannot know God’s methods. Why try?

DAVID: Don't use the word 'we'. That sentence is you. God exists. If I look at what is produced, I see purpose and methodology, but I don't look for God's humanized personality behind it.

dhw: You conveniently forget your humanizing and oft repeated belief that God watches us with interest and wants a relationship with us.

I have given those opinions about God because watching with interest would be a natural response for a Creator, which does not necessarily make Him human like us. As for having us seek a relationship with Him, that is the expectation from giving us our superior brain, and not necessarily a human desire of His. What He expects to have happen is not necessarily from a human desire.

dhw: here’s an alternative hypothesis (not dogma, and not even belief): God’s purpose in creating the ever changing bush of life was to create an ever-changing bush of life, including humans, and his method was to give organisms an autonomous means of diversifying. No humanizing there, so that objection flies out of the window; “why try?” goes out of the window too, because if you can try, I can try; and you have repeatedly acknowledged that there is nothing in this hypothesis that does not fit in with the history of life on Earth. There is no proof for either of our hypotheses, so what other reason do you have for not considering mine?

I can almost fully agree, except, as you know, I will still declare we are His main goal.