Consciousness: and brain damage (General)

by David Turell , Monday, January 22, 2018, 15:27 (2495 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: If you read Adler you might gain some understanding of the position. I can give God a goal (the brain) without attempting to personalize Him as you persist in doing. I do offer opinions about Him. I know that, but I do not know His underlying core positions. Religions claims He loves us. There is no proof, as an expmple of human wishful thinking. Does He respond to prayer? Adler says 50/50 chance. That is a reasonable point of view. Do you think God is humanlly logical. What is your proof?

dhw: Nobody “knows” your God’s underlying positions. There is no proof even of his existence, let alone of his purpose or his nature if he does exist. You needn’t shove religion at me. It is irrelevant to our discussion, which concerns your insistence that your God preprogrammed or dabbled every innovation, lifestyle and natural wonder in order to provide energy to keep life going until he could fulfil his sole purpose, the production of the sapiens brain. When I point out the illogicality of such an approach and offer an alternative, which you agree fits in with evolutionary history as we know it, your answer is your God’s logic must be different from ours. I don’t see how this justifies dismissal of my hypothesis. If you are happy with Adler’s 50/50 chance that your God listens to us and answers our prayers, why can’t you be happy with a 50/50 chance that your God has enjoyed life’s ever changing spectacle for its own sake, and not just for the sake of producing Homo sapiens (for reasons you “cannot” consider for fear of humanizing him).

I won't accept your 50/50 humanizing on principle that we cannot know. Adler's opinion is his considered judgment which I follow.