Theodicy: solution lies in definition of God (Introduction)

by dhw, Saturday, October 09, 2021, 08:52 (311 days ago) @ David Turell

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DAVID: You are still slicing and dicing evolution. […]

dhw: You have sliced and diced evolution by claiming that your God not only designed every individual life form, but sometimes did so using precursors and sometimes did so from scratch (Cambrian – no precursors). You don’t need to tell us that all life forms need food or that at one time mammals evolved. I keep asking you why your God specially designed countless life forms, including mammals, and their food that had no connection with us humans and our food, although his sole purpose was to produce us humans and our food. You just go on month after month trying to dodge the question.

DAVID: I have dodged nothing. I simply use God's produced history to tell me what God did and our unusual result tells me we were His goal in life's production during His designed evolutionary process. I won't change my view and I'm tired of repeating it politely when you purpose it endlessly with no hope of my change, and since I find your objection groundless in view of my view of God.

And you “simply” dodge the question of why, if we were his goal, he designed countless life forms that had no connection with us and our food.

DAVID: Just accept a designer and your constant confusion will disappear. All life needs a big bush of food supply.

dhw: But…yet again! if humans were your God’s only goal, why would the designer design countless forms of life and food that had no connection with humans? Just accept that your designer might have had a different goal, or might NOT have individually designed every life form and food, “and your constant confusion will disappear”. [David's bold]

DAVID: I'm not confused. The bold above should be humans were God's desired endpoint using an evolutionary designed process. That is my very logical unchanging position.

Which of course is not the problem in your theory. You should have bolded the question: why would the designer design countless forms of life and food that had no connection with humans? And I’ll relieve you of the chore of repeating your answer, which is that I should go and ask God.

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