A THEORY OF INTELLIGENCE Part Two; addendum (Identity)

by David Turell , Thursday, July 26, 2018, 18:14 (2311 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: I'll repeat it again. My soul is me. I know that I create thought in life by using the brain networks. Therefore the soul uses the brain networks to create its/my thoughts. Why do you try to separate your soul from you?

dhw: I don’t. I keep asking you the same question! And I also keep asking you what other “uses” the soul makes of the brain besides information and material expression. And then you tell me that “thought is created by electrical activity in the brain”, and the waves are translated into English by the soul, although elsewhere you have told me that the English-speaking soul initiates the thoughts and the brain makes no contribution.

I have always thought the brain contributes its networks for I/soul to use to create/form thoughts, despite how you have tried to interpret what I write.

DAVID: My brain networks allow me to receive God's consciousness. It is his gift to us.

dhw: A moment ago you accused me of separating “me” and the soul. Now you have your soul “receiving” your soul (a piece of God’s consciousness) thanks to the brain networks.

That doesn't separate the soul from me.

dhw: And you haven’t answered my question. Why can’t God’s consciousness be conscious in life and death? Also see below.

I don't see why it can't be.

DAVID: I'll repeat: I/soul drive/originate the thoughts created through the electricity in the brain networks. The networks never can do it on their own as you try to imply about my theory.

dhw: If your soul “originates” the thoughts, in what way are they “created” by the electricity in the brain?

Because the soul initiates and uses the networks to create the thought just as I do in life. I know I can't originate a thought without the networks in action. I am my soul. The logic is obvious.

dhw: If you/your soul has a thought, is it not a thought until it’s been “translated” into electricity? One of your theories was that the soul then translated the thought back into English, so that the soul could presumably understand the English thought that was translated into electricity. Does this make any sense to you?

I'm sorry you are so confused. Introspection will show you you and your soul uses those network ions to think.

DAVID: I may have difficulty turning my theories into something you can understand, but all you do is keep using rigid forms of dualism I don't accept. I start from the point that I know I use my brain to be conscious and think. There has to be a material side to thinking. I think it is the soul that allows consciousness to appear from the material side, as you know.

dhw: I have immense difficulty understanding your theories, because firstly they keep changing, and secondly you use terms that cry out for explanation. What do you mean by the soul “allows consciousness to appear from the material side”? The soul, by your definition, IS consciousness – you call it a piece of God’s consciousness – and so if it is housed in the brain, yes, it “appears” from the brain when given material expression, but until then it stays in the brain.

Because the soul, coming from God, contains the mechanism that creates consciousness from electricity in the brain networks.

dhw: How does this mean that the brain creates thought?

The brain doesn't by itself. It simply responds to what the I/soul wish to create. I/soul must use the brain networks/ions to create thought.

dhw:Back we go to the question you didn’t answer: why, in YOUR concept of dualism, can’t your God’s consciousness be conscious inside the brain in life (using the brain for information and material expression), and outside the brain in death?

As above it can and does. You stay confused because you have a rigid concept of dualism, not looking at how we know the brain works on the material side of the issue, and then analyzing how dualism can work.