Consciousness; research says insects have it (Introduction)

by David Turell @, Friday, July 08, 2016, 19:39 (3059 days ago) @ dhw


> DAVID: I am willing to accept that some activities, if simple enough, which I think aphid herding might be, can develop into instincts.
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> The question is whether the activities (farming, raft-building, nest-building etc.) are the result of intelligent design by the organisms themselves. Why are you being so coy? Are ants capable of intelligent design, as in aphid farming, without your God's instructions?-Not coy. I'll accept farming and rafting as simple enough to be insect 'learned' processes that become instincts. Complex nests, too complex for that process. -> DAVID: It isn't messy to me if God is everywhere and into everything.
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> dhw: If God's consciousness can split itself up into different levels and degrees, and is everywhere and into everything, then it is “into” us, your beloved doggy, my beloved ants and all other organisms, including those without brains. NB Instructions are not consciousness.-Why the concept of different levels and degrees? Why can't the effect of God's consciousness be everywhere through the quantum level of reality, where He probably is hiding.?


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