Consciousness; a radically new theory. Romansh? (Introduction)

by romansh , Wednesday, July 08, 2015, 03:13 (3209 days ago) @ dhw

So you agree with me again. Then let's get back to my question: how does this justify your claim that chemicals engender consciousness?
But do you agree with me ... when two concepts point in opposite directions then one or both are wron?-> And indeed every other material you can think of. No disagreement there either.
including consciousness?-> 
> You wrote “a healthy dose of ignosticism applied to reality does not go amiss”. As I understand it, ignosticism refers to ignorance of the nature of God, 
No not really ... it is more like it has to defined (reasonably well) before a meaningful discussion might be held.-> but “applied to reality” suggests you were using it in a wider sense.
Exactly- 
> In the statement, “it is my biology that is running my awareness and consciousness”, to what other place and appropriate qualifiers are you pushing the unsolved mystery of the source of consciousness? How do you know your statement is an accurate description of objective reality?-I don't know anything. But a whack load of evidence points me to think of consciousness as an illusion. AND THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT IS NOT REAL.-Illusions are real.-> David wrote that you and he would agree that the bus was red. You replied, “No, I don't think so.” If you both accept that the nomenclature corresponds to the object, your use of language is intersubjectively valid on any basis. I hope your education was thorough enough to distinguish between intersubjective validity and objective reality.-The bus is red. I perceive it as red. I don't care too much what David perceives it as. There is a difference between perception and reality. The difference between phenomenon and noumenon. -The bus is unlikely to be red, in fact we should be skeptical about colours as noumena.
 
Yes, I can't be sure of anything, but nevertheless I think I get out bed most mornings and go to work. Is that an objective reality or a intersubjective validity?-I am pretty sure as an objective reality the sun does not revolve around the Earth. We are allowed to look at the evidence and come to a conclusion. And there is next to no evidence for a dualistic consciousness. There is a lot evidence for a chemical origin for our consciousness.