Consciousness; a radically new theory. Romansh? (Introduction)

by romansh ⌂ @, Tuesday, July 07, 2015, 02:43 (3216 days ago) @ David Turell

To use your phrase, we do not know how the experience is 'loaded' into a non-functioning brain, but it was.
 If you assert this, it must be true?
 
> Obviously , if here are third party conformations of the events the patient describes, the time is known, as in may of the case descriptions. The problem with your response is your lack of recognition that in these recorded events the brain is not functional by every test available to medical science. The patient is therefore not conscious, and this is a much deeper state of absent consciousness than surgical anesthesia when the brain is obviously functional. The patient observes events with third party confirmation (veridical). This is what is not explained by our current knowledge or lack of knowledge about consciousness. To the M.D.'s I've listed, myself included, this is startling finding.-The bit in red is a huge fallacy. -> I gather you are not startled, but again you seem to be in total denial that these observations might have significance. Perhaps you should read Thomas Negal's Mind and Cosmos. I have. You asked for references, but I see no response. I assume you are not interested in pursuing this further. Or perhaps you have an understanding of consciousness the rest of us lack.-I appreciate you concern for my conformation bias. My reading time is finite, so I must pick and choose carefully what I read. Your arguments I have found strongly unconvincing.-here is list of stuff I have read over the last four years.
http://www.agnosticsinternational.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=145


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