Consciousness; a radically new theory. Diaphonous? (Introduction)

by romansh , Thursday, July 16, 2015, 03:16 (3418 days ago) @ David Turell

And my answer is, so what. Look at what humans have accomplished over the past few thousand years with that wallpaper.-I am having a hard time understanding the relevance of this statement to the discussion at hand.
 
> Of course thought is within our reality, but you have again side stepped my point that thought is not material. Perhaps your thoughts are. All thoughts become material only when recorded. -Recorded in our brain structures/chemistry?- 
> You seem to be referring to your thoughts not having a direct effect. I agree.-Not only direct but indirect too.-> First of all, you are ignoring the point that these are NDE's, 'NEAR to death', with a distinct time reference to the end of life. .... And in fact there have been scattered reports of NDE's when 'scared to death' while in perfect health.-No I am not. 
.... And having personally experienced such a thing I am far from convinced.
 
> The receiver hypothesis comes from medical research into the phenomenon, and the reported experience rate is about 20%, so the majority of folks never experience it.-And which medical journals ... with respect to the receiver hypothesis?-> ... but 'without the conscious intention to deceive' it doesn't matter. 
This assumes intent is somehow conscious and directing. And we end up in a circular argument.
> What are you trying to prove? 
I can't prove anything.