Consciousness; a radically new theory. Diaphonous? (Introduction)

by David Turell @, Saturday, July 18, 2015, 16:00 (3176 days ago) @ romansh

David: I think it is quite clear. You are making a fuss over the fact that the brain bridges gaps and adds info, yet the results of human endeavor are there to see. the brain does not get in our way. It is built to help. -> Romansh: The fuss I am making is the claim that you made that our consciousness is seamless. It is not. It just seems that way. The seamlessness is an illusion.-Perhaps I'm not clear. I agree with you that the brain covers gaps. My point is that it doesn't matter in regard to human functions, and is of no philosophic value to me other than how amazing it is, and I don't think chance mutation created it.
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> > David: Even if memorized, when thoughts appear they are immaterial. Another sidestep.-> Romansh: What they appear like is not what is under question.-What is the question from your viewpoint? 
 -> Romansh: I have a memory ... as a three year old or thereabouts I fell down the stairs ... I can still recall as I tumbled head over heels watching myself fall from the top of the stairs and at the same time I could see myself watching me watch me fall. -Thank you. Many people have had this happen. Hemmingway describes an episode exactly the same in the Spanish civil war when he floated up out of his body and saw himself.-> 
> Romansh: Of course this memory is no longer trustworthy ... in that it has been taken out of the bag and put back in many times. -Trustworthy? Do a little research and you'll find your memory is like lots of other folks incidents.
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> > David: You have forgotten the references I have given you. Google Pim van Lommel. M.D., Bruce Greyson, M.D. for starters.-> Romansh: And in which medical journals were their studies on a universal consciousness published?-Referenced in the books . I won't do the research for you.
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> Romansh: Ultimately what we are claiming here is the material influences immaterial world and in turn the immaterial influences the material world.-Yes. It is a matter of mind and consciousness, the difficult philosophic problem, and I don't have explanations, lots of questions and tentative conclusions.


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