Consciousness; research says insects have it (Introduction)

by David Turell , Wednesday, July 06, 2016, 15:02 (2848 days ago) @ dhw


> DAVID: It is possible it happened step by step. Some ants found aphids cooperative or easy to tame and bit by bit it developed into an instinct.
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> dhw: So do you believe the ants used their own intelligence and bit by bit learned from experience and experiment how to farm aphids, or do you believe God preprogrammed them 3.8 billion years ago or personally gave them instructions? - My statement above is quite clear. - > DAVID: I was referring to NDE research in which neurons seem not to be needed for consciousness to be active. I still consider brainless organisms to have automatic reactions.
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> dhw: I know you do. It is your fixed belief that I am questioning. If the enormous complexities of human consciousness can exist without neurons, it is not beyond the bounds of possibility that much simpler forms of consciousness can exist without neurons. Do you or do you not accept the logic of this argument? - Possibly logical. This is where my thought that universal consciousness exists as God comes to play.