Back to theodicy and David's theories (The nature of a \'Creator\')

by David Turell , Friday, February 19, 2021, 19:16 (1164 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: The bolded quote is obvious. There is no contemporaneous time connection, as you try to distort a misinterpretation of it.

dhw: Yes, it is obvious, so please tell us what role extinct life (let’s say, the brontosaurus), which you claim was "part of the goal of evolving humans", plays in our human present.

DAVID: Evolving humans went through necessary complexifying stages that included the Bronto.

dhw: Bearing in mind your insistence that your God directly designed every life form, do you truly believe that your God could not have designed H. sapiens if he had not designed the brontosaurus plus the other millions of extinct life forms, 99% of which you have agreed had no connection with humans?

There is the real connection of stepwise complexification through an evolutionary process chosen for use by God.

DAVID: […] He is above finding a creation for self-interest. You do not understand how you humanize Him.

dhw: I understand perfectly well that a Creator who creates something that will interest him would have a human pattern of thought similar to ours (though it might be more accurate to say that we have a pattern similar to his). And you agree that it is possible. By what authority do you claim that although he is interested in his creations, he did not create them in order to create something that would interest him?

DAVID: We create movies, plays, novels, TV sitcoms, etc. All for human entertainment. You claim God needs entertainment. He is above that as a person like no other person. (Adler) Your 'God' will never resemble my view of God.

dhw: How many more times must I tell you that “entertainment” is your choice of derogatory terminology? I have stuck rigidly to your agreement that he is INTERESTED in us, and so I ask why you think a creator who you are sure is interested in his creations should not have created them because he wanted to create something that would interest him.

Of course He is interested in His creations, but not to give Him something interesting to follow to have Him pass time as we humans idly do.