Clever Corvids: the cortical equivalent in many birds (Introduction)

by David Turell , Thursday, October 01, 2020, 16:48 (1296 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: Round and round. That God chose to evolve us from bacteria is no dodge. Each stage purposeful.

dhw: Please tell us in what way your God’s design of the dinosaur and the dodo (plus a few million other dead life forms) provided a stage in the design of H. sapiens.

Silly question. That is the way evolution works.

DAVID: Choosing to evolve us requires exactly what you question. Thinking with a mind is the same for all who can think, including God.

dhw: Ah, so when you say he thinks as we do, all you mean is that he has got a mind. Got it! Unfortunately, that doesn’t help us to find a reason why he would directly design the dinosaur and the dodo when all he wanted to design was us.

He wanted to design all of evolution, as history shows with humans as the endpoint. He understood the whole bush of life is necessary as a food supply for all. Especially with the ever rising size of the human population.

DAVID: No one can know God's exact thoughts. We both interpret the results of God's actions very differently.

dhw: But you reach definite decisions and talk of absolutes, even though you can’t find ANY logical reasons why he would have applied your choice of his method to fulfil your choice of his purpose. Furthermore, you reject my alternative possibilities, even though you can understand their logic. I know of atheists whose approach to these subjects is very similar to yours. They reach a definite decision concerning God’s existence and refuse to listen to your cogent and logical arguments- for design. Can you think of a word that describes this approach?

We both know no one can read the mind of God. Since He is capable of direct creation of the universe with the Big Bang, it seems He could have created humans directly, but we know He didn't. The food supply is one major reason why not. You rigidly can't make a choice when choices are obvious, and I rigidly stick to my choices all based on reasonable evidence. There is your word.