Clever Corvids: using tools (Introduction)

by David Turell , Monday, September 07, 2015, 23:01 (3151 days ago) @ dhw

Invention under limits or guidelines.[/i]
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> dhw: Now we can agree that it is not just possible but even probable that organisms have their own inventive intelligence, subject only to the restrictions imposed by their own nature and that of the environment. (And God may have invented the inventive intelligence.)-No. You need to add that God has his own guidelines along with those of nature and environment. View His guidelines as limitations to the directionality and scope of independent innovations. Please remember, I view God as guiding evolution toward humans.- 
 
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> dhw: It is not those “many cellular responses” that are in dispute. It's the rest of the process. What these researchers have drawn attention to is “individual cells sharing their experience and information to perform a team function” - a process common “from animal species to the level of the cell”. That is not an over-interpretation. They are the words used by the researchers. Animals, including humans, share experiences and information in order to make decisions and solve problems. So do cells, according to these researchers. -My view is the sharing of information is through chemical signals to which the cells respond automatically using the intelligent information and instructions they have to use.-> dhw:If that denotes intelligence in us, it denotes intelligence in cells...... The hypothesis we are dealing with here relates only to the intelligence of living organisms and its possible (or even probable) influence on the course of evolution, which you have now agreed to, as above.-Once again, the intelligent actions of cells are not equivalent to human intelligence and decision making.