Cosmology: Earth in goldylocks zone; dangerous (Introduction)

by dhw, Friday, October 27, 2017, 14:26 (2583 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: In answer to the inevitable question of why God might have allowed this danger, I will note that these explosions make the heavier elements like gold and on up to uranium in the periodic table. God obviously evolved the universe and the available elements in this way. We do not know, and will never know, whether He chose this method or it was the only way He could do it.

For the benefit of the few people who may be following these discussions, let me correct any misleading impression they may get from such posts. Obviously the universe evolved in this way. There is absolutely nothing “obvious” in the claim that God did it. And if God exists, it doesn’t say much for his “full control” if there was no other way. There are more such problems under “causality weirdness”:

DAVID’s comment: As weird as ever. Quantum mechanics is the basis of the universe. How can we understand God if His mechanics are so illogical?

There are many unexplained phenomena in the universe. Firstly, the puzzles are not solved by introducing another puzzle in the form of a sourceless, unknowable, invisible, conscious being, and secondly the seeming illogicality of quantum mechanics is no reason to believe in illogical explanations of evolution and to reject logical explanations.

DAVID: (under “all over Africa"): I'm still with Adler. God is a person like no other person. Which means our human logic doesn't apply.
dhw: If God is pure conscious energy that is capable of creating a universe, he is not a person anyway. But that doesn’t mean your humanly illogical explanations are right and my humanly logical explanations are wrong!
DAVID: Thank you for accepting that God is different!
dhw: If he exists, of course he’s not a human being. God being “different” is no reason for believing an illogical hypothesis and rejecting a logical one.
DAVID: Your 'logic' is not my logic.

You admit that my logic explains mysteries that your logic can’t solve, but you say “our human logic doesn’t apply”. So you can believe your illogical human logic, and you reject my logical human logic. Not much logic in that!


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