Cosmology: Latest theories of everything (Introduction)

by David Turell , Sunday, July 30, 2017, 18:30 (2454 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: But faith in a designer is not irrational. It can be, and is for me, a logical conclusion, if only chance and design as the ultimate causes are considered.

dhw: Again I must stress that I am not attacking your faith, and I find your arguments concerning design perfectly logical. However, you believe in a supernatural being large and powerful and knowledgeable enough to create a universe and life, you haven’t a clue how it could have come into existence but you assume it has always been there for ever and ever, even though you’ve never seen it because it deliberately hides itself, and you acknowledge that you can’t know any of its attributes. Do you really think this belief is rational? Something brought life into existence. That is as far as reason can take us. Your faith that the “something” could be an unknown and unknowable superbeing is as irrational as the faith that it could be a stroke of luck.

Yes, something brought life into existence. What you skip in your discussion is that the biochemistry of life is so complex to create it logically requires a planning mind. The ID logic never goes any further. Can you go that far?