Cosmology: Inflation theory under attack part 3 (Introduction)

by David Turell , Thursday, October 26, 2017, 15:19 (2366 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: Why would He want to dabble if He doesn't want control. Your idea makes no sense.

dhw:Of course it makes sense. He sets the free-for-all process in motion, but if he doesn’t like what he sees, or gets tired of it, he intervenes. In other words, he only takes control if he wants to. On the other hand, looking at your scenario, if he is NOT in full control, how can he dabble and be sure to get what he wants?

So you agree He is always in full control (if He wants). Fine.

DAVID: Evolution requires balance of nature. You agree to that.

dhw: Evolution can only take place if life goes on. Nobody could possibly disagree. “Balance of nature” means nothing more than that at different times different organisms are able to cope with different environmental conditions and therefore to survive.

What you have left out is everyone gets to eat as a result.

DAVID: The evolution of Cambrians showed development of new species over millions of years, no different than a few million years for human development. Evolution is evolution whenever and for how long it happened. 'Mucking' all along, don't you notice.

dhw: Under “Cosmology: how the universe evolved”, I wrote: “I thought your explanation for the Cambrian was an almighty dabble of instant creation, since species appeared to spring from nowhere.” You replied: “First life also is an almighty dabble, remember? Dabble and evolve.” Now apparently there is nothing special about the Cambrian after all – no almighty dabble, just evolution going the same old way. I’m happy with that. It fits in perfectly with my hypothesis that speciation of all kinds “mucks along” as different organisms devise different organs and strategies in the constant drive for survival and/or improvement. No overall plan, and especially no plan that links whales, nests and shrinking shrew skulls to the production of Homo sapiens’ brain.

All I left out was that the Cambrian had an abrupt start, but, oh, you seem to have forgotten that. Then there was lots of evolution of the original forms. As for humans, upright posture appeared, muscles reduced in size and then the brain grew. Each segment of evoluton had to start somewhere as God logically progresses with his plan.
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DAVID: Shrewdly the shrews adapted either epigenetically, by a mechanism provided by God, or He stepped in. Either is possible, Only more research may tell us in the future.

dhw: Yes, the mechanism of cellular intelligence that organizes epigenetic adaptation, which as you say is “akin to speciation”, may have been provided by your God. I’d be a bit surprised if he shrewdly preprogrammed the shrewy shrinkage 3.8 billion years ago or even did a dabble, since apparently all he really wanted to do was produce the brain of Homo sapiens.

I shrewdly said only research will tell us. As for the H sapiens brain, it obviously was a major goal. Can you think of others in your theistic mode?