Theistic evolution vs. Darwinism (Introduction)

by BBella , Saturday, June 15, 2013, 20:06 (4179 days ago) @ David Turell

Quantum math allows the use of probabilities to create electronic devices we use. Yet we cannot ever know whether the individual particle is a wave or a point of energy. When an experiment is done the result can only give an answer sought, not the complete picture.-Isn't life just one great experiment being sought by us all, each individually as well as socially? Seek and you will find, as the scripture say. Yet, even so, we cannot see the result or the complete picture, of what this means.->Thus the results have to factor in conscious intent because only what is looked for is found. -I've always thought this a conundrum. Scientist realize what they see when looking into QR is what they are looking for, and they know it. So what is the point and the result, the big/complete picture? Just that, what it is! The malleable fabric of what they are looking to experiment on reflects back their own belief, or reality. Now what? Just keep staring...keep experimenting...seeking a different answer? Or, start looking at the implications and taking that "science" seriously and to it's nth degree. But, this is where they (most) fall off the flat earth into quantum nothingness. Which is understandable, in a sense. I pretty much fall off there too.->dhw: Of course this proves absolutely nothing. I am merely questioning the meaning and accuracy of your statements.->My statements about quantum theory are correct. My statements of my conclusions are the correct conclusions for me. Consciousness is mixed up in quantum reality, the level underlying our perceived reality.-So very well said, David. I think this belief, of personal observed "Quantum Reality" is something we both have in common (not sure about anyone else here). We both understand that our perceptions of "what is" is just that...our own personal perceived realities that we consciously, or unconsciously, have searched to find and have found within our own personal realities. -I am convinced that the Quantum State of the malleable fabric of all that is, is just that - malleable by the state of consciousness. And the Quantum entanglement theory, on a macro scale, for me, also fits my own thought, that each of our separate realities collide, get entangled, and yet at the same time, coalesce into one balanced body that has it's painful, as well as glorious moments from which we perceive from our separate and social states of conscious reality seat. And when we each consciously perceive this teleo-reality, we, each, again, have the choice in how to neatly place what we view into our own conscious reality - which then moves the very state/fabric of the reality we perceive. We all do it...but, for most, it is done automatically, unconsciously, without purposeful thought.