Theistic evolution vs. Darwinism (Introduction)
dhw: I'm goading you with your apparent desire to start with "the available science", but I think you have once more missed the point of my panpsychist hypothesis, which SUPPORTS design ... but not your version. Instead of a single inexplicable eternal intelligence designing everything from scratch according to a master plan, I'm proposing inexplicable evolving intelligences designing everything as they go along. ......So if you want an improbable scenario that fits in with the "available science" AND with design, this is it! Your own improbable scenario explains design by bringing in an ADDITIONAL unknown power for whose actual existence the "available science" can offer no evidence.-DAVID: I simply do not believe that embryonal intelligences can grow themselves into more complex intelligences required to design what we see. Yours is a wonderful just-so story equal to the best in Darwinism. you are asking for design from self-designing intelligences.-I do not believe it either. But this is the agnostic's dilemma: ALL the explanations are just-so stories. Instead of "asking for design from self-designing intelligences", you ask for design from...a self-designed intelligence! What else is your God?
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David Turell,
2013-05-21, 01:17
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dhw,
2013-05-22, 16:39
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David Turell,
2013-05-22, 16:56
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dhw,
2013-05-23, 12:11
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David Turell,
2013-05-23, 15:00
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BBella,
2013-05-23, 18:48
- Theistic evolution vs. Darwinism - David Turell, 2013-05-23, 20:27
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dhw,
2013-05-24, 09:56
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David Turell,
2013-05-24, 15:11
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dhw,
2013-05-25, 11:45
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David Turell,
2013-05-28, 03:07
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David Turell,
2013-05-28, 15:54
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dhw,
2013-05-29, 13:02
- Theistic evolution vs. Darwinism - David Turell, 2013-05-29, 14:19
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dhw,
2013-05-29, 13:02
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dhw,
2013-05-29, 12:58
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David Turell,
2013-05-29, 14:10
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dhw,
2013-05-30, 09:28
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David Turell,
2013-05-30, 15:45
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dhw,
2013-05-31, 17:07
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David Turell,
2013-05-31, 17:32
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dhw,
2013-06-01, 12:00
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David Turell,
2013-06-01, 15:05
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dhw,
2013-06-02, 12:09
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David Turell,
2013-06-02, 15:37
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dhw,
2013-06-03, 16:17
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David Turell,
2013-06-03, 20:20
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dhw,
2013-06-04, 20:08
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David Turell,
2013-06-04, 20:52
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dhw,
2013-06-05, 17:26
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David Turell,
2013-06-05, 18:39
- Theistic evolution vs. Darwinism - dhw, 2013-06-06, 20:02
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David Turell,
2013-06-07, 15:34
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dhw,
2013-06-08, 15:02
- Theistic evolution vs. Darwinism - David Turell, 2013-06-08, 16:49
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BBella,
2013-06-08, 20:39
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David Turell,
2013-06-08, 23:29
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dhw,
2013-06-09, 14:45
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2013-06-09, 22:11
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dhw,
2013-06-10, 18:15
- Theistic evolution vs. Darwinism - David Turell, 2013-06-10, 19:43
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dhw,
2013-06-10, 18:15
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David Turell,
2013-06-09, 22:11
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BBella,
2013-06-10, 22:29
- Theistic evolution vs. Darwinism - David Turell, 2013-06-10, 23:22
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dhw,
2013-06-09, 14:45
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2013-06-08, 23:29
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2013-06-09, 00:07
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2013-06-11, 02:57
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2013-06-11, 05:53
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2013-06-11, 17:07
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dhw,
2013-06-12, 12:52
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dhw,
2013-06-13, 17:42
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2013-06-14, 15:47
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dhw,
2013-06-15, 11:23
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2013-06-15, 15:21
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BBella,
2013-06-15, 20:06
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dhw,
2013-06-16, 20:37
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dhw,
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- Theistic evolution vs. Darwinism - David Turell, 2013-06-18, 01:51
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dhw,
2013-06-17, 17:38
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David Turell,
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dhw,
2013-06-16, 20:37
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BBella,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
2013-05-31, 17:07
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David Turell,
2013-05-30, 15:45
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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David Turell,
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David Turell,
2013-05-28, 03:07
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