Theistic evolution vs. Darwinism (Introduction)

by dhw, Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 17:07 (3970 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID (to dhw): You are worse than religions' presumption they can apply attributes to God. Now He is bored. How do you know He is bored? You hae given him a purpose for human creation. How do you know He did it with purpose?-Dhw: I don't. I have merely said that IF I believed in him, that would be "the most likely purpose for me". Pure speculation. -Tony:.....God has no desire to control us. That is people talking. Ruling and controlling are two completely different things.-DAVID: Agreed. God rules over us but we have free will and the ability to screw up. God wants us to have that freedom of choice and to learn from the mistakes we make. God is a God of tough love, the only kind of approach that teaches a mature morality.-Wow! I'm not supposed to even speculate that God, if he exists, might have acted out of boredom, whereas you can read his mind, know his purpose, tell us exactly what he wants, and even categorize the kind of love he has for us. Once more I demand equal rights for agnostics!
 
DHW: It's when people take a firm decision that they are forced into defending irrationality.-DAVID: I don't think what I am defending, panentheism, is irrational. It feels right to me and it answers my questions about reality.-Your God is hidden, you don't know how he operates, you declare that you don't know any of his attributes ... though you think he is a conscious, planning, purposeful quantum mind which you personally are able to read, as above ... and you admit that your belief in his existence rests 100% on faith. Fine if it sounds right to you and answers your questions about reality. Atheists would say the same about their faith in chance. But since when was faith based on reason?