Theistic evolution vs. Darwinism (Introduction)
Tony: DHW: There is no single overriding purpose[/i > > > >> Tony DHW thinks there is no purpose. (As do atheist) > > David thinks that humanity was the purpose. (Though he goes no further than that, that I have seen) > > Tony: I think that there is a purpose, but that purpose was put on pause to deal with some housekeeping issues brought on by free will. > >David: You have me correctly, but I don't follow your free will comment completely. God gave us free will which has created some problems for all of us, but we have to learn to control our free will, and most of us are doing just that. So God is in control even though He has lost some control over us, despite the fact that He had the purpose to create us.-The house keeping issues brought on by free will were not cause by humans. Humanity just exacerbated the problem by bringing it into our realm of existence. Supposing the bible tales are true(which I do, even if you don't, but let's assume for a moment that they are for the sake of the discussion) Satan(Title, not a name) exercised his free will to raise a challenge to God's right to rule. Had he been alone, in his actions, the issue likely could have been resolved immediately. Instead though, he drafted some unwitting accomplices and so things had to be paused while the tragedy ran it's course. God has no desire to control us. That is people talking. Ruling and controlling are two completely different things.[/quote]
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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.
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