Theistic evolution vs. Darwinism (Introduction)

by dhw, Sunday, June 02, 2013, 12:09 (4193 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw: How known are "known accepted physics" and accepted by whom? That was the thrust of my 123 zillion big bangs and universes.-DAVID: Fairly well known. We keep studying our universe and the findings continue to fit the Big Bang theory. The multiverse proposal is to keep chance in the game.-My point was to query the relevance of Penrose's "famously and widely quoted" odds of 10^10^123 against a chance beginning, which you defended by saying "we know the initial conditions of the universe and its current parameters. Penrose used known accepted physics." I don't regard "fairly well known" as a reliable basis for such figures, and no matter whether the Big Bang theory is true or not, you yourself have consistently pointed out that we haven't a clue what could have preceded the Big Bang. We are all groping in the dark, and for a faithless neutral like myself, 123 zillion universes in eternity is just as likely/unlikely as an unknown and unknowable quantum mind that has also existed for eternity and has created just one.