Nibbana tangent parts 1 & 2 (Agnosticism)
So the central truth of Buddhism is precisely that we CAN dissolve the ego out of our subjective experience, and the reason I like both the onion and the lotus similes is that when the flower is open, there's nothing left to open, only the flower remains, and with the onion, very similarly, once you've gotten to the bud, there's no more work to do. The psychological transformation of removing that last "I AM" is supposed to be radically profound, you are at maximum peace, in this very life. But you still clearly experience things--the Buddha lived for 40yrs after Nibbana. But those experiences will no longer generate an ego-attachment.
DAVID: I must not be as critical. I feel at peace as is.
You must be dead!![]()
I have to sit still for close to an hour to get any kind of mental calm, or get a massage.
Out of curiosity, have you ever read Julian Jaynes?
I was sleeping overnight. Jaynes, no.
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- Nibbana tangent part 2 -
xeno6696,
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- Nibbana tangent part 2 -
David Turell,
2024-05-15, 17:08
- Rebirth PART ONE: evidence in young children - David Turell, 2024-05-15, 16:46
- Nibbana tangent part 1 -
xeno6696,
2024-05-15, 16:02
- Rebirth PART ONE: evidence in young children -
David Turell,
2024-05-15, 00:09
- Rebirth PART ONE: evidence in young children -
xeno6696,
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- Rebirth PART ONE: evidence in young children - David Turell, 2024-05-11, 18:29
- Rebirth PART ONE: evidence in young children -
dhw,
2024-05-11, 08:43
- Rebirth PART ONE: evidence in young children -
xeno6696,
2024-05-11, 05:40
- Rebirth PART ONE: evidence in young children -
David Turell,
2024-05-10, 22:12
- Rebirth PART ONE: evidence in young children -
xeno6696,
2024-05-10, 20:42
- Rebirth PART ONE: evidence in young children -
David Turell,
2024-05-10, 18:19
- Rebirth PART ONE -
David Turell,
2022-12-23, 16:01
- Rebirth PART ONE -
xeno6696,
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- Rebirth PART ONE -
dhw,
2022-12-22, 09:35
- Rebirth PART TWO -
dhw,
2022-12-20, 09:10
- Rebirth Attempt 1 -
David Turell,
2022-12-19, 22:52
- In the interest of (maybe) a new discussion... -
David Turell,
2022-12-10, 19:03