Rebirth PART ONE (Agnosticism)

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Thursday, December 22, 2022, 23:31 (726 days ago) @ David Turell

So it's not an escape to a final death, but something incomprehensible.

Well there ya go, at least in my book this DOES make Buddhism more of a religion than a philosophy, though I suppose it's up to the individual precisely where to take it.

First of all, enjoy Christmas with family. We can keep. Us Jewish folk do not have heaven or hell. If there is an afterlife "God will care for us". Same incomprehensible result.

People still don't believe me when I tell them that Hell was a Christian invention. I mean, there IS a precursor in Zoroastrianism but usually I lose people before we even get that far.

Gehenna and Sheol, places where we go to purify according to some accounts. Hell was the first franchise business in the west. ;-)

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\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"

\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"

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