Far out cosmology: oxygen appeared early (Introduction)
James Webb telescope latest findings:
https://phys.org/news/2023-11-astronomers-webb-rapid-oxygen-early.html
"Using new data from the James Webb Space Telescope, astronomers have measured the abundance of oxygen in the early universe. The findings, accepted for publication in The Astrophysical Journal Supplement Series and posted to the arXiv preprint server, show that the amount of oxygen in galaxies increased rapidly within 500–700 million years after the birth of the universe, and has remained as abundant as observed in modern galaxies since then. This early appearance of oxygen indicates that the elements necessary for life were present earlier than expected.
"In the early universe, shortly after the Big Bang, only light elements such as hydrogen, helium, and lithium existed. Heavier elements like oxygen were subsequently formed through nuclear fusion reactions within stars and dispersed into galaxies, primarily through events like supernova explosions. This ongoing process of element synthesis, unfolding over the vast expanse of cosmic history, created the diverse elements that constitute the world and living organisms around us.
"A research team led by Kimihiko Nakajima at the National Astronomical Observatory of Japan used data from the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) to measure the oxygen in 138 galaxies that existed in the first 2 billion years of the universe. The team found that most of the galaxies had oxygen abundances similar to modern galaxies. But out of the seven earliest galaxies in the sample, those that existed when the universe was only 500–700 million years old, six of them had roughly half the predicted oxygen content.
"This rapid increase in oxygen content occurred earlier than astronomers were expecting. This opens the possibility that with the necessary ingredients, like oxygen, already readily available in the early universe that life may have appeared sooner than previously thought."
Comment: From a purpose standpoint, knowing in advance how vital oxygen would be for most life, providing for large amounts early makes perfect design sense.
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2017-03-15, 13:56
- Far out cosmology: when dark matter formed -
David Turell,
2017-03-15, 21:10
- Far out cosmology: does dark energy kill galaxies? -
David Turell,
2017-03-23, 13:48
- Far out cosmology: does dark energy kill galaxies? -
dhw,
2017-03-24, 12:22
- Far out cosmology: does dark energy kill galaxies? -
David Turell,
2017-03-24, 13:17
- Far out cosmology: does dark energy kill galaxies? -
dhw,
2017-03-25, 13:19
- Far out cosmology: does dark energy kill galaxies? -
David Turell,
2017-03-25, 14:23
- Far out cosmology: does dark energy kill galaxies? -
dhw,
2017-03-26, 10:39
- Far out cosmology: does dark energy kill galaxies? -
David Turell,
2017-03-26, 18:51
- Far out cosmology: does dark energy kill galaxies? -
dhw,
2017-03-27, 11:55
- Far out cosmology:MilkyWay in a big void -
David Turell,
2017-06-07, 05:20
- Far out cosmology:MilkyWay in a big void -
David Turell,
2017-06-07, 15:04
- Far out cosmology: Space fabric is like goo -
David Turell,
2017-06-22, 15:01
- Far out cosmology: Galileo proven by Einstein -
David Turell,
2018-01-09, 00:22
- Far out cosmology: cosmic strings exist? -
David Turell,
2018-04-26, 01:27
- Far out cosmology: cosmic strings exist? -
dhw,
2018-04-26, 13:37
- Far out cosmology: cosmic strings exist? -
David Turell,
2018-04-26, 18:03
- Far out cosmology: cosmic strings exist? -
dhw,
2018-04-27, 11:50
- Far out cosmology: cosmic strings exist? -
David Turell,
2018-04-27, 15:15
- Far out cosmology: cosmic strings exist? -
dhw,
2018-04-28, 11:06
- Far out cosmology: cosmic strings exist? -
David Turell,
2018-04-28, 15:55
- Far out cosmology: cosmic strings exist? -
dhw,
2018-04-29, 12:07
- Far out cosmology: cosmic strings exist? - David Turell, 2018-04-29, 16:40
- Far out cosmology: cosmic strings exist? -
dhw,
2018-04-29, 12:07
- Far out cosmology: cosmic strings exist? -
David Turell,
2018-04-28, 15:55
- Far out cosmology: cosmic strings exist? -
dhw,
2018-04-28, 11:06
- Far out cosmology: cosmic strings exist? -
David Turell,
2018-04-27, 15:15
- Far out cosmology: cosmic strings exist? -
dhw,
2018-04-27, 11:50
- Far out cosmology: cosmic strings exist? -
David Turell,
2018-04-26, 18:03
- Far out cosmology: spacetime explained -
David Turell,
2019-07-15, 19:59
- Far out cosmology: spacetime explained -
dhw,
2019-07-16, 13:17
- Far out cosmology: spacetime explained -
David Turell,
2019-07-16, 15:30
- Far out cosmology: spacetime explained -
dhw,
2019-07-17, 09:36
- Far out cosmology: spacetime explained - David Turell, 2019-07-17, 16:04
- Far out cosmology: spacetime explained -
dhw,
2019-07-17, 09:36
- Far out cosmology: spacetime explained -
David Turell,
2019-07-16, 15:30
- Far out cosmology: spacetime explained -
dhw,
2019-07-16, 13:17
- Far out cosmology: cosmic strings exist? -
dhw,
2018-04-26, 13:37
- Far out cosmology: cosmic strings exist? -
David Turell,
2018-04-26, 01:27
- Far out cosmology: dark energy, string theory incompatable -
David Turell,
2018-08-17, 20:46
- Far out cosmology: gravitational waves add no dimensions -
David Turell,
2018-09-15, 00:53
- Far out cosmology: gravitational waves add no dimensions -
David Turell,
2018-09-26, 04:25
- Far out cosmology: gravitational waves doubted -
David Turell,
2018-11-03, 15:19
- Far out cosmology: Milky Way Black hole confirmed - David Turell, 2018-11-04, 00:21
- Far out cosmology: gravitational waves doubted -
David Turell,
2018-11-04, 19:23
- Far out cosmology: Earth has two dust cloud moons! - David Turell, 2018-11-11, 04:36
- Far out cosmology: gravitational waves not doubted - David Turell, 2018-12-19, 22:02
- Far out cosmology: gravitational waves add no dimensions -
David Turell,
2018-11-20, 18:23
- Far out cosmology: forces resisting gravity -
David Turell,
2018-11-23, 01:38
- Far out cosmology: Hubble constant confusion -
David Turell,
2018-11-29, 22:37
- Far out cosmology:peak star formation ten billion years ago - David Turell, 2018-11-29, 22:50
- Far out cosmology: Hubble constant confusion - David Turell, 2019-02-09, 05:33
- Far out cosmology: Hubble constant confusion -
David Turell,
2018-11-29, 22:37
- Far out cosmology: forces resisting gravity -
David Turell,
2018-11-23, 01:38
- Far out cosmology: gravitational waves doubted -
David Turell,
2018-11-03, 15:19
- Far out cosmology: gravitational waves add no dimensions -
David Turell,
2018-09-26, 04:25
- Far out cosmology: dark matter research goes nowhere -
David Turell,
2019-02-25, 17:19
- Far out cosmology: wandering space rocks are everywhere -
David Turell,
2019-07-16, 19:22
- Far out cosmology: more about the silly multiverse theory - David Turell, 2019-07-16, 19:45
- Far out cosmology: wandering space rocks are everywhere -
David Turell,
2019-07-16, 19:22
- Far out cosmology: related parts of universe from quanta -
David Turell,
2019-10-29, 17:36
- Far out cosmology: dark energy may not exist -
David Turell,
2019-12-02, 00:12
- Far out cosmology: dark energy may not exist -
dhw,
2019-12-02, 14:01
- Far out cosmology: dark energy may not exist -
David Turell,
2019-12-03, 05:19
- Far out cosmology: dark energy may not exist -
dhw,
2019-12-03, 11:04
- Far out cosmology: dark energy may not exist - David Turell, 2019-12-04, 01:32
- Far out cosmology: dark energy may not exist -
dhw,
2019-12-03, 11:04
- Far out cosmology: dark energy may not exist -
David Turell,
2019-12-03, 05:19
- Far out cosmology: dark energy may not exist -
dhw,
2019-12-02, 14:01
- Far out cosmology: dark energy may not exist -
David Turell,
2019-12-02, 00:12
- Far out cosmology: why matter? -
David Turell,
2020-02-05, 16:07
- Far out cosmology:another way carbon might have been made -
David Turell,
2020-03-20, 21:10
- Far out cosmology: Milky Way is huge -
David Turell,
2020-03-24, 22:44
- Far out cosmology: string theory and inflation fight -
David Turell,
2020-03-27, 18:21
- Far out cosmology: the possible shape of spacetime -
David Turell,
2020-05-19, 21:13
- Far out cosmology: an old galaxy like ours - David Turell, 2020-05-20, 19:11
- Far out cosmology: the possible shape of spacetime -
David Turell,
2020-05-19, 21:13
- Far out cosmology: Milky Way has many satellites - David Turell, 2020-04-12, 21:15
- Far out cosmology: string theory and inflation fight -
David Turell,
2020-03-27, 18:21
- Far out cosmology: Milky Way is huge -
David Turell,
2020-03-24, 22:44
- Far out cosmology: why matter? -
David Turell,
2020-04-16, 01:46
- Far out cosmology: why matter? -
David Turell,
2020-04-16, 19:36
- Far out cosmology: why matter more than antimatter? -
David Turell,
2020-04-28, 23:22
- Far out cosmology: asteroid bombardment 800 mya? - David Turell, 2020-07-21, 19:39
- Far out cosmology: giant primordial strings may exist -
David Turell,
2020-09-30, 21:10
- Far out cosmology: finding hot gases -
David Turell,
2020-11-07, 20:52
- Far out cosmology: our galaxy is huge -
David Turell,
2020-11-08, 19:44
- Far out cosmology: the first deuterium - David Turell, 2020-11-11, 19:24
- Far out cosmology: our galaxy is huge -
David Turell,
2020-11-14, 23:24
- Far out cosmology: our galaxy is huge -
dhw,
2020-11-15, 12:18
- Far out cosmology: our galaxy is huge -
David Turell,
2020-11-15, 15:01
- Far out cosmology: dark energy and dark matter -
David Turell,
2020-11-15, 15:17
- Far out cosmology: what are fast radio bursts - David Turell, 2020-11-16, 19:12
- Far out cosmology: our galaxy is huge -
dhw,
2020-11-16, 14:21
- Far out cosmology: our galaxy is huge -
David Turell,
2020-11-16, 15:12
- Far out cosmology: our galaxy had interesting formation -
David Turell,
2020-11-16, 19:59
- Far out cosmology: our galaxy has ancient clusters - David Turell, 2020-12-19, 21:48
- Far out cosmology: our galaxy is huge -
dhw,
2020-11-17, 12:09
- Far out cosmology: our galaxy is huge -
David Turell,
2020-11-17, 15:59
- Far out cosmology: found neutrinos from the sun -
David Turell,
2020-11-27, 21:55
- Far out cosmology: ravenous black hole vs. star formation -
David Turell,
2020-11-27, 22:55
- Far out cosmology: the sun and Earth's position refined -
David Turell,
2020-11-27, 23:03
- Far out cosmology: a more accurate fine structure constant -
David Turell,
2020-12-02, 21:21
- Far out cosmology: a new approach to time -
David Turell,
2020-12-10, 21:07
- Far out cosmology: enough energy for multiverses -
David Turell,
2020-12-13, 23:58
- Far out cosmology: strange quark stars may exist -
David Turell,
2020-12-19, 01:41
- Far out cosmology: furthest and one of the oldest galaxies -
David Turell,
2020-12-22, 22:30
- Far out cosmology: measuring galactic gravity with pulsars -
David Turell,
2021-01-12, 22:56
- Far out cosmology: colliding galaxies -
David Turell,
2021-01-23, 22:40
- Far out cosmology: we've landed on Mars -
David Turell,
2021-02-19, 19:47
- Far out cosmology: we've landed on Mars -
David Turell,
2021-02-23, 14:55
- Far out cosmology: growing giant early galaxies -
David Turell,
2021-02-24, 19:27
- Far out cosmology: growing heavy elements in our galaxy -
David Turell,
2021-02-27, 00:39
- deleted -
David Turell,
2021-02-27, 21:57
- Far out cosmology: are kooky theories justified -
David Turell,
2021-02-27, 21:58
- Far out cosmology: how the sun surface changes -
David Turell,
2021-03-02, 18:51
- Far out cosmology: muon magnetism -
David Turell,
2021-04-07, 21:10
- Far out cosmology: muon magnetism II -
David Turell,
2021-04-07, 21:36
- Far out cosmology: measuring expansion of the universe -
David Turell,
2021-04-21, 19:17
- Far out cosmology: Big Bang theory survives -
David Turell,
2021-05-07, 15:48
- Far out cosmology: differing star nurseries -
David Turell,
2021-06-08, 18:42
- Far out cosmology: merging galaxies prove dark matter -
David Turell,
2021-06-13, 23:16
- Far out cosmology: planets with polar orbits -
David Turell,
2021-06-14, 18:41
- Far out cosmology: why does everything in the universe spin -
David Turell,
2021-06-14, 18:54
- Far out cosmology: a complaint about theoretical math -
David Turell,
2021-06-15, 18:44
- Far out cosmology: black hole theory proven - David Turell, 2021-06-15, 18:57
- Far out cosmology: Milky Way spin slows -
David Turell,
2021-06-17, 15:18
- Far out cosmology: data overload -
David Turell,
2021-06-18, 23:18
- Far out cosmology: sound wave studies -
David Turell,
2021-06-19, 14:36
- Far out cosmology: cosmic filaments spin -
David Turell,
2021-06-22, 21:20
- Far out cosmology: Jupiter and Saturn have fevers -
David Turell,
2021-06-23, 17:57
- Far out cosmology: electron-capture supernova -
David Turell,
2021-06-28, 19:24
- Far out cosmology: neutron star black hole merge -
David Turell,
2021-06-29, 18:53
- Far out cosmology: gamma ray bursts more understood -
David Turell,
2021-06-30, 21:30
- Far out cosmology: imagine the Big Bang -
David Turell,
2021-06-30, 23:15
- Far out cosmology: energy in this universe -
David Turell,
2021-07-05, 21:01
- Far out cosmology: elements from exploding stars -
David Turell,
2021-07-08, 15:00
- Far out cosmology: spacetime is flat -
David Turell,
2021-07-22, 15:44
- Far out cosmology: speculations going nowhere -
David Turell,
2021-07-24, 19:50
- Far out cosmology: quark gluon plasma studied -
David Turell,
2021-08-10, 18:24
- Far out cosmology: another distant arm found -
David Turell,
2021-08-16, 19:08
- Far out cosmology: our sun may be very different: -
David Turell,
2021-09-10, 19:36
- Far out cosmology: B mode polarization in the CMB -
David Turell,
2021-10-09, 23:27
- Far out cosmology: a beginning or not -
David Turell,
2021-10-20, 16:09
- Far out cosmology: a beginning or not -
dhw,
2021-10-21, 14:32
- Far out cosmology: a beginning or not -
dhw,
2021-10-21, 14:32
- Far out cosmology: a beginning or not -
David Turell,
2021-10-20, 16:09
- Far out cosmology: B mode polarization in the CMB -
David Turell,
2021-10-09, 23:27
- Far out cosmology: our sun may be very different: -
David Turell,
2021-09-10, 19:36
- Far out cosmology: another distant arm found -
David Turell,
2021-08-16, 19:08
- Far out cosmology: quark gluon plasma studied -
David Turell,
2021-08-10, 18:24
- Far out cosmology: speculations going nowhere -
David Turell,
2021-07-24, 19:50
- Far out cosmology: spacetime is flat -
David Turell,
2021-07-22, 15:44
- Far out cosmology: elements from exploding stars -
David Turell,
2021-07-08, 15:00
- Far out cosmology: energy in this universe -
David Turell,
2021-07-05, 21:01
- Far out cosmology: imagine the Big Bang -
David Turell,
2021-06-30, 23:15
- Far out cosmology: gamma ray bursts more understood -
David Turell,
2021-06-30, 21:30
- Far out cosmology: neutron star black hole merge -
David Turell,
2021-06-29, 18:53
- Far out cosmology: electron-capture supernova -
David Turell,
2021-06-28, 19:24
- Far out cosmology: Jupiter and Saturn have fevers -
David Turell,
2021-06-23, 17:57
- Far out cosmology: cosmic filaments spin -
David Turell,
2021-06-22, 21:20
- Far out cosmology: sound wave studies -
David Turell,
2021-06-19, 14:36
- Far out cosmology: data overload -
David Turell,
2021-06-18, 23:18
- Far out cosmology: a complaint about theoretical math -
David Turell,
2021-06-15, 18:44
- Far out cosmology: why does everything in the universe spin -
David Turell,
2021-06-14, 18:54
- Far out cosmology: planets with polar orbits -
David Turell,
2021-06-14, 18:41
- Far out cosmology: merging galaxies prove dark matter -
David Turell,
2021-06-13, 23:16
- Far out cosmology: differing star nurseries -
David Turell,
2021-06-08, 18:42
- Far out cosmology: Big Bang theory survives -
David Turell,
2021-05-07, 15:48
- Far out cosmology: measuring expansion of the universe -
David Turell,
2021-04-21, 19:17
- Far out cosmology: muon magnetism II -
David Turell,
2021-04-07, 21:36
- Far out cosmology: muon magnetism -
David Turell,
2021-04-07, 21:10
- Far out cosmology: how the sun surface changes -
David Turell,
2021-03-02, 18:51
- Far out cosmology: are kooky theories justified -
David Turell,
2021-02-27, 21:58
- deleted -
David Turell,
2021-02-27, 21:57
- Far out cosmology: growing heavy elements in our galaxy -
David Turell,
2021-02-27, 00:39
- Far out cosmology: growing giant early galaxies -
David Turell,
2021-02-24, 19:27
- Far out cosmology: we've landed on Mars -
David Turell,
2021-02-23, 14:55
- Far out cosmology: we've landed on Mars -
David Turell,
2021-02-19, 19:47
- Far out cosmology: colliding galaxies -
David Turell,
2021-01-23, 22:40
- Far out cosmology: measuring galactic gravity with pulsars -
David Turell,
2021-01-12, 22:56
- Far out cosmology: furthest and one of the oldest galaxies -
David Turell,
2020-12-22, 22:30
- Far out cosmology: strange quark stars may exist -
David Turell,
2020-12-19, 01:41
- Far out cosmology: enough energy for multiverses -
David Turell,
2020-12-13, 23:58
- Far out cosmology: a new approach to time -
David Turell,
2020-12-10, 21:07
- Far out cosmology: a more accurate fine structure constant -
David Turell,
2020-12-02, 21:21
- Far out cosmology: the sun and Earth's position refined -
David Turell,
2020-11-27, 23:03
- Far out cosmology: ravenous black hole vs. star formation -
David Turell,
2020-11-27, 22:55
- Far out cosmology: found neutrinos from the sun -
David Turell,
2020-11-27, 21:55
- Far out cosmology: our galaxy is huge -
David Turell,
2020-11-17, 15:59
- Far out cosmology: our galaxy had interesting formation -
David Turell,
2020-11-16, 19:59
- Far out cosmology: our galaxy is huge -
David Turell,
2020-11-16, 15:12
- Far out cosmology: dark energy and dark matter -
David Turell,
2020-11-15, 15:17
- Far out cosmology: our galaxy is huge -
David Turell,
2020-11-15, 15:01
- Far out cosmology: our galaxy is huge -
dhw,
2020-11-15, 12:18
- Far out cosmology: our galaxy is huge -
David Turell,
2020-11-08, 19:44
- Far out cosmology: finding hot gases -
David Turell,
2020-11-07, 20:52
- Far out cosmology: why matter more than antimatter? -
David Turell,
2020-04-28, 23:22
- Far out cosmology: why matter? -
David Turell,
2020-04-16, 19:36
- Far out cosmology:another way carbon might have been made -
David Turell,
2020-03-20, 21:10
- Far out cosmology: gravitational waves add no dimensions -
David Turell,
2018-09-15, 00:53
- Far out cosmology: Galileo proven by Einstein -
David Turell,
2018-01-09, 00:22
- Far out cosmology: Space fabric is like goo -
David Turell,
2017-06-22, 15:01
- Far out cosmology:MilkyWay in a big void -
David Turell,
2017-06-07, 15:04
- Far out cosmology:MilkyWay in a big void -
David Turell,
2017-06-07, 05:20
- Far out cosmology: does dark energy kill galaxies? -
dhw,
2017-03-27, 11:55
- Far out cosmology: does dark energy kill galaxies? -
David Turell,
2017-03-26, 18:51
- Far out cosmology: does dark energy kill galaxies? -
dhw,
2017-03-26, 10:39
- Far out cosmology: does dark energy kill galaxies? -
David Turell,
2017-03-25, 14:23
- Far out cosmology: does dark energy kill galaxies? -
dhw,
2017-03-25, 13:19
- Far out cosmology: does dark energy kill galaxies? -
David Turell,
2017-03-24, 13:17
- Far out cosmology: does dark energy kill galaxies? -
dhw,
2017-03-24, 12:22
- Far out cosmology: does dark energy kill galaxies? -
David Turell,
2017-03-23, 13:48
- Far out cosmology: when dark matter formed -
David Turell,
2017-03-15, 21:10
- Far out cosmology: star spin coordinated -
David Turell,
2017-03-15, 13:56
- Far out cosmology: galaxies form cosmic foam pattern -
David Turell,
2016-10-18, 19:10
- Far out cosmology: Any explanation for dark matter? -
dhw,
2016-09-05, 13:11
- Far out cosmology: Any explanation for dark matter? -
David Turell,
2016-09-05, 01:06
- Far out cosmology:Tidally locked planets explained-2 -
David Turell,
2016-08-30, 00:57
- Far out cosmology:Tidally locked planets explained-2 -
David Turell,
2016-08-28, 15:35
- Far out cosmology: Tidally locked planets explained -
David Turell,
2016-08-28, 15:20
- Far out cosmology: LIGO finds waves? -
David Turell,
2016-02-12, 14:52
- Far out cosmology: LIGO finds waves? Yes!!! -
David Turell,
2016-02-11, 19:42
- Far out cosmology: LIGO finds waves? -
David Turell,
2016-02-11, 18:21
- Far out cosmology: LIGO and BICEPS2 differ -
David Turell,
2016-01-14, 19:53
- Far out cosmology: LIGO detector explained -
David Turell,
2016-01-13, 22:28
- Far out cosmology: LHC spots a possible new particle -
David Turell,
2015-12-17, 21:36
- Far out cosmology: Black hole study -
David Turell,
2015-01-31, 14:15
- Far out cosmology: More Biceps2 skepticism -
David Turell,
2014-09-27, 01:19
- Far out cosmology: More Biceps2 skepticism -
David Turell,
2014-09-26, 01:24
- Far out cosmology: dark matter spotted? -
David Turell,
2014-06-25, 21:57
- Far out cosmology: More Biceps2 skepticism -
David Turell,
2014-06-04, 15:37
- Far out cosmology: Biceps2 skepticism -
David Turell,
2014-06-02, 15:18
- Far out cosmology: Biceps2 -
David Turell,
2014-05-30, 23:40
- Far out cosmology: Biceps2 -
dhw,
2014-05-30, 20:23
- Far out cosmology: Biceps2 -
David Turell,
2014-05-29, 20:35
- Far out cosmology -
David Turell,
2014-05-29, 02:50
- Far out cosmology -
dhw,
2014-02-09, 19:56
- Far out cosmology -
David Turell,
2014-02-08, 01:42
- Far out cosmology -
George Jelliss,
2014-02-07, 21:08
- Far out cosmology -
David Turell,
2014-02-07, 16:01
- Far out cosmology -
George Jelliss,
2014-02-06, 16:25
- Far out cosmology -
David Turell,
2014-02-06, 15:46
- Far out cosmology -
George Jelliss,
2014-02-05, 23:50
- Far out cosmology -
George Jelliss,
2014-02-03, 21:21
- Far out cosmology -
David Turell,
2014-02-03, 15:28
- Far out cosmology -
dhw,
2014-02-03, 11:37
- Far out cosmology -
David Turell,
2014-02-02, 15:42
- Far out cosmology -
dhw,
2014-02-02, 13:08
- Far out cosmology -
David Turell,
2014-02-02, 01:02
- Far out cosmology -
George Jelliss,
2014-02-01, 19:08
- Far out cosmology -
Balance_Maintained,
2014-01-29, 02:43
- Far out cosmology -
Balance_Maintained,
2014-01-28, 00:31
- Far out cosmology -
David Turell,
2014-01-27, 15:26
- Far out cosmology -
David Turell,
2013-12-25, 00:31
- Far out cosmology -
David Turell,
2013-12-23, 15:09
- Far out cosmology -
David Turell,
2013-12-11, 02:14
- Far out cosmology -
dhw,
2013-12-10, 20:07