Far out cosmology: dhw: Why so many star failures? (Introduction)

by dhw, Sunday, February 05, 2023, 11:22 (438 days ago) @ David Turell

From Jan 31st miscellany: "dhw: Billions and billions of stars that come and go, and they all look like design to you. So what do you reckon: another 99% failure rate?"

DAVID: They are not failures but contribute to the next generation of stars:

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/FMfcgzGrcPQQfdcQQhzMnfbGkCwDTwxC

QUOTE: "The Sun is a third-generation star, containing the heavier elements from previous generations of stars that lived and died. But first-generation stars must have formed from the primordial hydrogen and helium left over from the Big Bang. Astronomers haven't been able to detect them yet, but a new simulation predicts that they might be extremely massive, with some reaching 100,000 times the mass of the Sun." (David’s bold)

DAVID: dhw raises negative opinions, as in the quote above, while admitting his science education is small. My role is to look for answers. The answer here is obvious. Stars go through generations of types as the early universe evolves into the present form. Our sun is third generation from about five billion years ago. It is a 'metallic' star containing the important metals we use today on Earth. We can say a very special Earth comes from a very special sun. I'll now repeat. Looks designed to me.

You are lumbering yourself with exactly the same problem as you have with the evolution of life. I have never questioned the fact that we and the rest of the universe have evolved. If God exists, he is responsible for the evolution of us and the rest of the universe. However, you now theorize that your God’s evolution of life entailed designing 99% of life forms that you regard as mistakes/failed experiments/a mess because they did not lead to us and our food. Here you theorize that your God’s evolution of the universe entailed designing billions of trillions of stars in order to produce one star and one planet in one galaxy. I can’t see any reason why an all-powerful God needed to do this, so I ask you: why do you believe that it was necessary for your God to design all the billions of trillions of stars, including all those which have disappeared, for the sole purpose of producing our special sun and our special Earth? Is this another example of what you believe to be your God’s 99% failure rate and 1% success?