Far out cosmology (Introduction)

by George Jelliss ⌂ @, Crewe, Thursday, February 06, 2014, 16:25 (3941 days ago) @ David Turell

DT: But Stenger does not start with nothing. He starts with a false vacuum. So he must assume it is and was eternal.-In my book "eternal" means "for all of time". 
If there is no time eternal has no meaning.-A Stenger quote: 'nothing' is as simple as it gets-With this I agree.-DT: this view, however, is clearly metaphysically absurd. True nothingness cannot have any properties whatsoever, including the property of instability.-This just shows that your concept of "true nothingness" does not exist. 
It is a metaphysical fantasy, like a perfect circle.-DT: All you have stated is that Time began with the Big Bang. I agree. I have no problem with eternal timlessness until the Bang.-As stated above I do have a problem with "eternal timelessness". 
This is an oxymoron. If there is no time there is no eternity.

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GPJ


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