Far out cosmology; multiverse (Introduction)

by BBella @, Monday, January 27, 2014, 21:07 (3951 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: But beyond this wildly successful level of explanation seems to lie an impasse. The problem arises when you try to explain one of the most profound facts of nature, the fact that the fundamental constants of nature are fine-tuned to a fault, that the universe as we know it would not exist if these constants had even slightly different values. 
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> BBella: This quote reminds me of what I concluded while contemplating God and reality when "frozen in time" while ill. That if there is a God, it would be found in the changeless constant of the fabric of our universe which is itself [created by] change. Even the scripture's conclude, God never changes - which has really allowed fundamentalist to drag their feet evolving with time. Yet, the only thing that doesn't change is change itself. So, for me, this scripture is saying, God IS the changelessness of change [edited: in other words: It is what It is. And the thing about "IT" (change), it is so momentarily fleeting, it is impossible to nail down or to give IT expression. And so = God.]
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> DAVID: This is why I think God is the consciousness or mind of the universe, unchanging but guiding change.
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>[dhw] Nothing ever stays the same, and so the only constant is change. If there is a god, it is a form of energy that transmutes itself into ever changing combinations of matter... This should not be taken as an argument either for or against design. -Yes, dhw, what you wrote above does sum up to a tee what I was saying. As for an eternal designer: A Conscious Self Aware Being that calls itself God or I Am, as the scriptures convey, that designed all that now IS from the beginning? I don't know. But I do completely understand how and why (the ONE thing that does not change: the changelessness of change) could be worshiped and called God. When you observe the ability of our consciousness itself to effect the ever changing fabric of All That IS, it gives a clue (to me) or lends itself to the idea that consciousness itself has power over the changing state of matter. It's like, if something is observed for very long, more times than not it will eventually appear to have some form of consciousness. It is understandable that we then conclude consciousness was there before we observed it. But, it is also possible to conclude that by the very act of our concluding (belief) we effected the very fabric of what we observed and may have "awakened" consciousness within it. Or, it may appear conscious because we look thru conscious eyes and conclude it has consciousness, altho it may not. I don't know which. I remain open.


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