Human evolution; our complex speech mechanism (Introduction)

by David Turell , Thursday, May 16, 2019, 18:48 (2016 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: I said McCrone did describe them talking at five, six words per minute, remember?

dhw: And how does he know that? Anyway, the argument now is that the mechanisms for modern language were already in place and were already being used before H. sapiens. There is therefore no gulf between pre-sapiens and sapiens, but simply an onward development of sounds as pre-sapiens and sapiens built on the linguistic achievements of their predecessors. Please explain what you think this proves.

The physical changes advanced with each homo stage including humans, but really functional language appeared 50,000 years ago perv theory. Form appeared before true function. Tht is what it proves. Design first.

DAVID: As usual I think your concept humanizes God. I view Him as knowing exactly what He wants.

dhw: If he exists, I also view him as knowing exactly what he wants, and it ain’t the same as your version of exactly what he wants. And there is no point in talking about purpose if you are not prepared to tell us what that purpose is. AnD why do you think your God is incapable of creating an autonomous mechanism, as opposed to a mechanism that preprogrammes every undabbled change in the history of evolution?

your view is very different than mine in which I see Him as purely purposeful, who does not need spectacle

DAVID: What is evolution but the development of all the forms that evolution has produced? If God is in change, the history of what He did is clear. And humans are certainly specially designed, compared to everything else.

dhw: Yes, evolution is the history of all the forms, and if God exists, that history is clear. But you keep telling us that EVERYTHING is specially designed – even the weaverbird’s nest – and THAT is the problem with your hypothesis, because you will insist that he specially designed EVERY form, and did so only in order to specially design humans.

And just why can't it be proposed that He designed everything, while in charge of evolution?